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Posted: **Mon Jun 26, 2000 5:23 pm**

> Anyway, this weekend will be my first experience with 2-up riding. We're > going to take it easy for a while (just little trips around the > neighborhood). Any suggestions on how to handle the bike with the extra > weight (not that she adds much!)? Anything I should be looking out for, > or expecting to feel?

I'm sure you'll prep her about keeping her feet on the pegs and leaning with you. Helmet bonk gets kinda old. A passenger increases braking distance and makes the family jewels more susceptible to being smashed against the gas tank. I'd say the trade offs are worth it. Redondo Ron

Posted: **Mon Jun 26, 2000 6:03 pm**

Anything I should be looking out for, or expecting to feel? Tim Ryce Hey Tim, My wife on the back lets me rip off wicked second gear wheelies, but I don't recommend you try it unless you have 1) lots and lots of hot rodding experience, and 2) a really cool ol' lady like mine. But seriously, if you are wanting in the inseam department like me, beware of leaning too much at a stop with a passenger on board. Also, watch out for rubber-necking (your passenger) when passing Kits Beach, sudden weight shifts can throw you more than a foot to either side, especially at slow speeds. Spanish Banks/UBC area might be a good place to ride (lots to see, slow speeds, relatively little traffic by Van. standards, maybe a Sunday am ride to Whistler too. Cheers, Rob

Posted: **Mon Jun 26, 2000 6:27 pm**

In a message dated 06/26/2000 6:25:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cloudhid@... writes:

> I'm sure you'll prep her about keeping her feet on the pegs and > leaning with you. Helmet bonk gets kinda old. A passenger > increases braking distance and makes the family jewels more > susceptible to being smashed against the gas tank. I'd say > the trade offs are worth it. > > Redondo Ron >

Hey Ron, I caint go for this at all. Aint no way, no how, my daughter is going to get on the back of no bike with a rider with limited experience (if I can help it that is). Think back, would you let your daughter be your first passenger? A motorcycle is not a jet ski. When you fall off, you hit hard objects. The object causing the sudden stop or gravity usually wins. Best when it happens solo. So, now you know, "ol' Knot is a real stick in the mud". Wonder what Sarah's take on this is, I mean, would she be a willing passenger? Hello, Sarah...... Knot - just an ol' fart ps (Tim, this is in no way meant to be a slam or disrespect your riding abilities, just ol' Knot's way of making a point - Ride Safe and when you are ready give her a controlled thrill and do it again and again and......Love is Patient.....)

Posted: **Mon Jun 26, 2000 6:35 pm**

> Anyway, this weekend will be my first experience with 2-up riding. We're > going to take it easy for a while (just little trips around the > neighborhood). Any suggestions on how to handle the bike with the extra > weight (not that she adds much!)? Anything I should be looking out for, > or expecting to feel?

well, not wanting to throw a wet blanket but do take it easy...the KLR is not the easiest bike to do two-up on for a variety of reasons. If she is inexperienced tell her to stay close so you can feel where she is at back there. explain she should imagine her body as an extension of yours right down the midline...she is not to lean...she is not to look around your shoulders...she is to just meld into your backside and let you drive the bike. When getting on and off she is not to do make any movements without first saying "ok to get on--ok to get off" and then wait for you to reply "yes" ...when she gets on and off she shouldn't grab your arms... My daughter Nina is the best two-up passenger I've ever had and she's proud of it...she does it by trusting me and not leaning or looking around me. When starting off and coming to a standstill do it slowly but deliberately...everything takes more time two-up and everything is exaggerated...if you start to fall you really start to fall...beware of very slow speed turns and grabbing the front brake almost a sure way to do an Artie Johnson. Explain to her that in case of a low speed fall she wants to get out from underneath the bike and especially not get pinned under the exhaust. If she hasn't been around motorcycles show her the parts that must not be touched when the bike is or has been running. Some folks can't imagine how hot exhaust pipes get. I have plenty of scars on my legs from my old Norton's... The above does not have to be a downer if you just set up a kind of teaching session well before you plan you're first few rides... Kurt

Posted: **Mon Jun 26, 2000 6:41 pm**

luckily, he didn't ask your daughter, eh? my advice, ride slowly, ride carefully, stay out of traffic as much as possible for a few hours until you get comfortable. DON'T try to show off. impress her with how careful you are. tell her to pretend she's part of the bike, when you lean the bike, she's attached to it, so she leans too. enjoy yourselves. mw

> -----Original Message----- > From: ephilride@... [mailto:ephilride@...] > Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 4:27 PM > To: Cloudhid@...; dsn_klr650@egroups.com > Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] 2-Up Riding (NKLR) > > > In a message dated 06/26/2000 6:25:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > cloudhid@... writes: > > > I'm sure you'll prep her about keeping her feet on the pegs and > > leaning with you. Helmet bonk gets kinda old. A passenger > > increases braking distance and makes the family jewels more > > susceptible to being smashed against the gas tank. I'd say > > the trade offs are worth it. > > > > Redondo Ron > > > Hey Ron, I caint go for this at all. Aint no way, no how, > my daughter is > going to get on the back of no bike with a rider with limited > experience (if > I can help it that is). Think back, would you let your > daughter be your > first passenger? A motorcycle is not a jet ski. When you > fall off, you hit > hard objects. The object causing the sudden stop or gravity > usually wins. > Best when it happens solo. So, now you know, "ol' Knot is a > real stick in > the mud". > > Wonder what Sarah's take on this is, I mean, would she be a willing > passenger? Hello, Sarah...... > > Knot - just an ol' fart > > ps (Tim, this is in no way meant to be a slam or disrespect > your riding > abilities, just ol' Knot's way of making a point - Ride Safe > and when you are > ready give her a controlled thrill and do it again and again > and......Love is > Patient.....) > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! > 1. Fill in the brief application > 2. Receive approval decision within 30 seconds > 3. Get rates as low as 2.9% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR > http://click.egroups.com/1/5197/6/_/911801/_/962062035/ > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > >

Posted: **Mon Jun 26, 2000 6:45 pm**

>> Anyway, this weekend will be my first experience with 2-up riding.

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>> going to take it easy for a while (just little trips around the >> neighborhood). Any suggestions on how to handle the bike with the

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>> weight (not that she adds much!)? Anything I should be looking out

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>> or expecting to feel? >well, not wanting to throw a wet blanket but do take it easy...

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>The above does not have to be a downer if you just set up a kind of

teaching

>session well before you plan you're first few rides... > >Kurt

Thanks for the great suggestions, Kurt. I guess I forgot to mention that my girlfriend used to race motocross (when she was just a wee thing), and has spent many hours behind her dad on a motorcycle. The only one inexperienced here is me! Tim

Posted: **Mon Jun 26, 2000 7:00 pm**

>Wonder what Sarah's take on this is, I mean, would she be a willing >passenger? Hello, Sarah......

Actually, before I started riding, I got on the back of some bikes with drivers who now make me shudder to think of it (this was back in my wild and crazy youth when I was hanging out with the "wrong sort of guy"). But I'd also passengered with some good drivers, so I could tell I was doing something stupid. And the first time _I_ took a passenger, well, um, let's just say I could tell he was a disposable boyfriend... But I got a lot of the stupid mistakes out of the way with him. No damage to either of us (how much trouble was a VF500F gonna get into 2 up...) Seeing as we now know his g-friend is an experienced passenger, I'd say to the guy, go slow, plan short hops on side streets where there's not much traffic, and practice all the basic MSF stuff so you can get used to the difference in handling. The KLR gets more prone to wheelies with a passenger on the back (well, that's what I found...) ---o&>o--- Sarah Barwig sarah@...

Posted: **Mon Jun 26, 2000 7:09 pm**

Major point: Keep the front wheel firmly planted on the ground! You have quite the recipe for failure if you fool around, gun it off the line, break a clutch cable at high rpm, etc. The KLR likes the wheelie stance, with a rearward weight bias, you will launch without warning and missy will be picking gravel out of her bum. You will probably go down too, not being the cool guy you are today. Just like sex: Safe, slow, again... (Did I say that?) Heh, heh, heh... Congrats on the test :^) --- Rev. Chuck :^)>+ A13 http://klr650.50megs.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:01:29 tryce wrote:

>Hey all, > >I'm proud to announce that I FINALLY passed my road test (actually, it was >only the second time ) with flying colours. Everything is easier the >second time round, especially when you get a different examinar that >actually knows his hand signals. Last time, the examinar convinced me >that they were something other than what they were supposed to be. Water >under the bridge now.... > >So I can now take the girlfriend on the back of my A9. She's been bugging >me about it since I got it, trying to make me break the law and take her >for a ride. If you want to meet a woman who loves the KLR, talk to her! >It might come across to others that I got it just to make her happy! > >Anyway, this weekend will be my first experience with 2-up riding. We're >going to take it easy for a while (just little trips around the >neighborhood). Any suggestions on how to handle the bike with the extra >weight (not that she adds much!)? Anything I should be looking out for, >or expecting to feel? > >Thanks in advance! > >Tim Ryce >A9 - 'Flashback to the 80s' >Vancouver, BC > >

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Posted: **Mon Jun 26, 2000 9:05 pm**

>From: tryce@... >To: dsn_klr650@egroups.com >Subject: [DSN_klr650] 2-Up Riding (NKLR) >Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:01:29 -0700 > >Hey all, > >I'm proud to announce that I FINALLY passed my road test (actually, it was >only the second time ) with flying colours. Everything is easier the >second time round, especially when you get a different examinar that >actually knows his hand signals. Last time, the examinar convinced me >that they were something other than what they were supposed to be. Water >under the bridge now.... > >So I can now take the girlfriend on the back of my A9. She's been bugging >me about it since I got it, trying to make me break the law and take her >for a ride. If you want to meet a woman who loves the KLR, talk to her! >It might come across to others that I got it just to make her happy! > >Anyway, this weekend will be my first experience with 2-up riding. We're >going to take it easy for a while (just little trips around the >neighborhood). Any suggestions on how to handle the bike with the extra >weight (not that she adds much!)? Anything I should be looking out for, >or expecting to feel? > >Thanks in advance! > >Tim Ryce >A9 - 'Flashback to the 80s' >Vancouver, BC >

Here's a tip you might not think about much. Let the passenger know that it is not a good idea to point at something, the reason is it might be mistaken for a turn signal. You wouldn't want another vehicle to think you are about to turn when you're not. When you are both on the bike the chain tension may be adversely affected by the additional load on the suspension. I don't know how firm the suspension is on the bike, but the extra passenger could worsen a too tight chain. L8R Conall ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Posted: **Tue Jun 27, 2000 10:42 am**

-----Original Message----- From: tryce@... [mailto:tryce@...] Sent: June 26, 2000 3:01 PM To: dsn_klr650@egroups.com Subject: [DSN_klr650] 2-Up Riding (NKLR) Hey all, I'm proud to announce that I FINALLY passed my road test So I can now take the girlfriend on the back of my A9. She's been bugging me about it since I got it, trying to make me break the law and take her for a ride. Anything I should be looking out for, or expecting to feel? ________________ Ya... all "tingly" whe she wraps her arms around your waist. =) Keep your eyes on the road! lol Arne

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