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Awe... Wazzamatter Arne, Here's a pic of a very rough draft. Thought about extrusion in the perpendicular direction to cut down on waste, but there may be a trade off on mill set up for the large holes and then changing set-up for mount bolts. One piece design, you'll have to remove the forks from the T-Clamp to install, perhaps a three piece is more appealing but less strength. The drawing has fictitious dimensions but that particular form weights 3# out of aluminum. We can lighten it by changing form of the bridge and perhaps make the bridge perforated. All of the stress will be in an X through the bridge. Extrude holes where strength doesn't factor and it can be lighter. Oh well. It's public domain now. LaterZ Dash> >Unless you're willing to spend the $$$ on proving yourself, it >doesn't really matter. Been burned myself... > >Arne
OK OK I have to chirp in here......having had experiences with Telefix fork braces ($80, not $200) I can tell you right now that unless the distance between hole centers is slightly adjustable then the most likely effect of the brace is that it will ruin the smooth action of the fork sliders moving up and down the fork tubes.....Fork tubes are designed with very loose tolerances so they slide...for optimum action with the least stiction they need to slide parallel to each other...the best way to accomplish this is to roll them on a flat surface like a heavy glass table and determined which way the tubes are arced, if the tubes are arced..then they need to be assembled that way and the fork brace, if used, needs to be installed in a manner that allows the sliders to slide without stiction....unlikely with the design shown. Just my experience with braces...I have taken them off and sold them a couple of times, and the handling has improved. Love them wheels, though...and the frame paint job is pretty nice too! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com> forks from the T-Clamp > to install, perhaps a three piece is more appealing > but less strength.
A few years ago Beez toyed with the idea of getting his brother to make us a titanium brace for the KLR. Maybe it will still come to fruition. In the meantime Tim has produced a work of art for us... the 'K9' KLR fork brace. Traveling around Utah for two weeks left no time to install it or evaluate it's effectiveness, but after Gino's initial report, I'll bet that it'll cure most of the fork flexing found in sand washes and mud bogs. Hopefully Gino will have time to do a full report for Dual Sport News. Tim has a shot of the prototype on the bike, www.happy-trails.com Attached are shots of the production model. Redondo Ron>Oh well. It's public domain now.
That dry heat in Moab must have dehydrated you Ron. The correct URL is http://www.happy-trail.com - not trail"s". BTW, the K9 weighs in at 1.6 lbs. John T. Oldepus - batting cleanup...again> Tim has a shot of the prototype on the bike, www.happy-trails.com > Attached are shots of the production model.
[b]-----Original Message-----[/b] [b]From: [/b]cloudhid@... [b]To: [/b]DSN_klr650@egroups.com DSN_klr650@egroups.com> [b]Date: [/b]14 juin, 2000 20:09 [b]Subject: [/b]Re: [DSN_klr650] Fork Brace dweeks@... writes: [fork brace snip] >Oh well. It's public domain now. A few years ago Beez toyed with the idea of getting his brother to make us a titanium brace for the KLR. Maybe it will still come to fruition. In the meantime Tim has produced a work of art for us... the 'K9' KLR fork brace. Traveling around Utah for two weeks left no time to install it or evaluate it's effectiveness, but after Gino's initial report, I'll bet that it'll cure most of the fork flexing found in sand washes and mud bogs. Hopefully Gino will have time to do a full report for Dual Sport News. Tim has a shot of the prototype on the bike, www.happy-trails.com Attached are shots of the production model. Redondo Ron Looks beautiful, but like Bill was mentioning... How does it account for the slight variances in the distances between the fork tubes? The attachment points look "fixed" as opposed to adjustable. I realize this distance variable will be minute - and maybe not enough to make a difference - but in theory, any side-ways pressure would cause stiction would it not? Having said that... it is a work of art and if it works as designed that's awesome. Arne
Tim's money back guarantee and Gino's initial input is enough to make it worth a try. But I love to fan the theory volleys. Here it is on the klr after a week's worth of Moab trails. Redondo Ron> Looks beautiful, but like Bill was mentioning... How does it account >for the slight variances in the distances between the fork tubes? The >attachment points look "fixed" as opposed to adjustable. I realize this >distance variable will be minute - and maybe not enough to make a >difference - but in theory, any side-ways pressure would cause stiction >would it not? > > Having said that... it is a work of art and if it works as designed >that's awesome. > > Arne
> One piece design, you'll have to remove the > > forks from the T-Clamp > > to install, perhaps a three piece is more appealing > > but less strength. > >OK OK I have to chirp in here......having had >experiences with Telefix fork braces ($80, not $200) I >can tell you right now that unless the distance >between hole centers is slightly adjustable then the >most likely effect of the brace is that it will ruin >the smooth action of the fork sliders moving up and >down the fork tubes.....Fork tubes are designed with >very loose tolerances so they slide...for optimum >action with the least stiction they need to slide >parallel to each other...the best way to accomplish >this is to roll them on a flat surface like a heavy >glass table and determined which way the tubes are >arced, if the tubes are arced..then they need to be >assembled that way and the fork brace, if used, needs >to be installed in a manner that allows the sliders to >slide without stiction....unlikely with the design >shown. Just my experience with braces...I have taken >them off and sold them a couple of times, and the >handling has improved. Love them wheels, though...and >the frame paint job is pretty nice too!
----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] dweeks@... [b]To:[/b] monahanwb@... ; DSN_klr650@egroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Thursday, June 15, 2000 6:29 AM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_klr650] Fork Brace Thanks Mr. Goat, I don't have any experience with fork Braces so I didn't know. That is very good to know though, and perhaps I'll think about that some more. Again this was rough and I was just getting thoughts out there for some feedback. I'll never take something like this to production, too much capital - not enough return. But I might throw up something on my mill and have something for myself. No not that design, that's an awfully large billet. How do you go about mounting the, say Telefix brace? My guess was that it was made so that you didn't have to remove the fork tubes. Do you compress the forks and measure then release and measure along the travel? At what point in the travel do you tighten up those cap bolts? Thanks. LaterZ Dash At 04:35 PM 6/14/2000 -0700, bill e goat wrote: > One piece design, you'll have to remove the > > forks from the T-Clamp > > to install, perhaps a three piece is more appealing > > but less strength. > >OK OK I have to chirp in here......having had >experiences with Telefix fork braces ($80, not $200) I >can tell you right now that unless the distance >between hole centers is slightly adjustable then the >most likely effect of the brace is that it will ruin >the smooth action of the fork sliders moving up and >down the fork tubes.....Fork tubes are designed with >very loose tolerances so they slide...for optimum >action with the least stiction they need to slide >parallel to each other...the best way to accomplish >this is to roll them on a flat surface like a heavy >glass table and determined which way the tubes are >arced, if the tubes are arced..then they need to be >assembled that way and the fork brace, if used, needs >to be installed in a manner that allows the sliders to >slide without stiction....unlikely with the design >shown. Just my experience with braces...I have taken >them off and sold them a couple of times, and the >handling has improved. Love them wheels, though...and >the frame paint job is pretty nice too! Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... Let's keep this list SPAM free! Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com