high winds and coasting issue

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dale_johnson13
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Post by dale_johnson13 » Wed Jan 30, 2002 4:30 pm

> I have the sprocket cover off, and have bent back the safety
washer, the
> bike is in first gear, I am holding down the back brake, and have a > bungy cords on the front brake.
Some say they have has to use an impach wrench, I had no problems removing mine. maybe you need to eat your Wheaties http://www.breakfast-of-champions.com/ Dale :-)

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Post by monahanwb » Wed Jan 30, 2002 4:34 pm

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "dale_johnson13" wrote:
> > maybe you need to eat your Wheaties
Or learn the principle of applied leverage. Get a four foot cheater bar on there. Then not so tight when you put it back together. it's not going anywhere with the locking tab on it.

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Post by Devon Jarvis » Wed Jan 30, 2002 4:34 pm

Put the tranny in 5th gear- it will make it much harder to turn over the motor when you turn the countershaft nut. Soak it in liquid wrench for an hour, then tap the nut with a wrench or a hammer for a few minutes, then soak it some more. Have a friend sit on the seat and step on the brake pedal. This way you can use both hands, and the bike won't move. Heat the nut with a propane torch. Use a small tip like the propane bottle torch that any hardware store sells, playing it only around the nut. Try to loosen it while still hot. Use a 1/2" breaker bar with a 3' piece of pipe over the end for a cheater bar. If the above don't work, try a manual impact driver with a hammer (around $30, an impact driver is good to have for many other things). Last resort, a 1/2" air impact wrench. Devon A15 imperial-4776@... wrote:
> > Ok > > I have the sprocket cover off, and have bent back the safety washer, the > bike is in first gear, I am holding down the back brake, and have a > bungy cords on the front brake. > > I'm trying to un-screw the nut in a anti clockwise motion, but its not > moving ! > > What am I doing wrong ???? > > TIA > Dave > > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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Post by RM » Wed Jan 30, 2002 5:51 pm

On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 imperial-4776@... wrote:
>I'm trying to un-screw the nut in a anti clockwise motion, but its not >moving ! > >What am I doing wrong ????
I fought with mine for hours before giving up and buying an impact wrench. Have a friend with an impact?

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Post by dale_johnson13 » Wed Jan 30, 2002 6:40 pm

what is "Jake's Right Nut" ?

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Post by David McClymont » Wed Jan 30, 2002 8:20 pm

I second this motion- heat can be a little dangerous here... David A1x2 -----Original Message----- From: David Kelly [mailto:dkelly@...] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 12:17 PM To: Devon Jarvis Cc: KLR650 group Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Front Sprocket Devon Jarvis writes:
> > Heat the nut with a propane torch. Use a small tip like the propane > bottle torch that any hardware store sells, playing it only around the > nut. Try to loosen it while still hot.
If you do, plan on replacing the oil seal. You can also ruin the temper on the countershaft itself. I strongly recommend AGAINST using heat on the countershaft sprocket nut. Use an air wrench.

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Post by Jim Franklin » Wed Jan 30, 2002 10:18 pm

On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 08:17:11PM -0600, David Kelly wrote:
>Devon Jarvis writes: >> >> Heat the nut with a propane torch. Use a small tip like the propane >> bottle torch that any hardware store sells, playing it only around the >> nut. Try to loosen it while still hot. > >I strongly recommend AGAINST using heat on the countershaft sprocket >nut. Use an air wrench.
What he said. Also, 5th gear gives you the best ratio for turning the engine. You want to use first gear if you're counting on the engine holding the countershaft. In reality, you will bend/break something. We used to use a penny wedged in between the primary gear and clutch drive gear for loosening either. It seemed to cause the least damage. But it's more work to get to if you're not there anyway. If you can't loosen it by holding the rear brake, rent/buy an electric impact gun and an impact socket. jim

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Post by Mark St.Hilaire, Sr » Wed Jan 30, 2002 10:53 pm

> I have the sprocket cover off, and have bent back the safety washer, the > bike is in first gear, I am holding down the back brake, and have a > bungy cords on the front brake. > > I'm trying to un-screw the nut in a anti clockwise motion, but its not > moving ! > > What am I doing wrong ????
Sounds like not a thing. When I first took the nut off MY bike I was getting nowhere, (I'm pretty sure the assembly guys went a little crazy with a cheater bar, or something), and finally ended up using an air impact wrench. 27mm socket, as I recall. Air tools are our friends! It came off with no muss, and no fuss that way... Wise men still seek Him... Mark St.Hilaire, Sr A15 Also: KLR6500@... HomePage: http://home.adelphia.net/~msaint/index.html KLR650 Motorcycle Pages: http://klr6500.tripod.com/ Valve Check & Adjustment Guide: http://klr6500.tripod.com/valves.html

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Post by RM » Wed Jan 30, 2002 11:06 pm

On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Walter Lesnowich wrote:
>I use "Jake's Right Nut" to eliminate the cheezy plate you bend over.
How does Jake's nut work? What retains it?

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Post by Mark St.Hilaire, Sr » Wed Jan 30, 2002 11:35 pm

> > I use "Jake's Right Nut" to eliminate the cheezy plate you bend over. > > How does Jake's nut work? What retains it?
Walt, and obviously Jake, could explain this properly, but it has something to do with the way Jake machined the threads. I've got the nut in my hand, and don't see anything obviously different, but I'm quite sure it's the way the threads terminate, or something... I actually haven't put mine on yet, but I'll be pleased to get rid of that stupid washer thing... Wise men still seek Him... Mark St.Hilaire, Sr A15 Also: KLR6500@... HomePage: http://home.adelphia.net/~msaint/index.html KLR650 Motorcycle Pages: http://klr6500.tripod.com/ Valve Check & Adjustment Guide: http://klr6500.tripod.com/valves.html

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