"ring cotter" (was "a klr review video")

[k650@verizon.net]

I was just venting... that's un-stressing. If it made me angry I would not be here posting right now... I would be out riding in the woods looking for baby rabbits to run over. Now I need to find my label maker then off to all the Home Depot's to label the hitch pin drawers 'Bridge Clip". Walt -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Nichols Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 13:01 To: Jeff Khoury; k650@... Cc: DSN KLR650; Ron Criswell Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: A KLR review video Jeff, I must correct you. That's wrong. It makes them angry, not stressed. -David ________________________________ From: Jeff Khoury To: k650@... Cc: DSN KLR650 DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>; Ron Criswell Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: A KLR review video LOL. I learned a long time ago that trying to correct wrongness on the Internet unnecessarily raises one's stress level. -Jeff Khoury

[Eddie]

Same reason folks buy "hot water heaters". No such thing. Hot water doesn't need heating. LOL eddie

> [Original Message] > From: > To: Ron Criswell > Cc: DSN KLR650 DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Date: 6/12/2012 11:24:03 AM > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: A KLR review video > > Why does everyone call them hitch pins? It is a hitch pin clip. > > Walt > > > -----Original Message----- > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Ron Criswell > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:02 > To: Kevin Powers > Cc: DSN KLR650 > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: A KLR review video > > I like cotter pins instead of hitch pins. Tree line or twigs can pull them > out (happened to me). A guy at Moab one year lost his and his front axle

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> using one. > > Criswell > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 11, 2012, at 8:54 AM, Kevin Powers wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Jeff Khoury wrote: > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > Eagle Mike's Prevailing Torque Nut eliminates the need for the bendy > > > washer that holds the countershaft nut in place. > > > > > > The threads are ground at a slightly different pitch than the ones > > > on the shaft, causing it to bind just enough so it won't back out with > vibration. > > > > > > Once you have this in place... and if you keep a coat of grease on > > > your countershaft so the sprocket doesn't stick, changing the front > > > sprocket is quite quick and easy. > > > > > > 1. pull out the cotter pin on your rear axle and throw it away. > > > Replace it with a hitch pin so you don't have to mess with that the

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> time. > > > > > > 2. Back off your adjusting nuts (or bolts, depending on the year) on > > > the swingarm with a 12mm wrench (on the 08+). Keep those oiled so > > > they move easily. > > > > > > > When you order your Eagle Mike prevailing torque nut, add in the Axle > > adjuster Nylock lock nut > > PIChttp://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/images/nylock.jpg>, > > which uses a 13mm wrench. > > -- > > Kevin Powers > > White Bear Lake, MN > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com Arrowhead > Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map:

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[Chris]

I put a zip-tie around the open end of the hitch pin (aka hitch pin clip , just for my paranoid self to not worry about it coming out. Chris

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Ron Criswell wrote: > ** > > > I like cotter pins instead of hitch pins. Tree line or twigs can pull them > out (happened to me). A guy at Moab one year lost his and his front axle it > using one. > > Criswell > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 11, 2012, at 8:54 AM, Kevin Powers wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Jeff Khoury wrote: > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > Eagle Mike's Prevailing Torque Nut eliminates the need for the bendy > > > washer that holds the countershaft nut in place. > > > > > > The threads are ground at a slightly different pitch than the ones on > the > > > shaft, causing it to bind just enough so it won't back out with > vibration. > > > > > > Once you have this in place... and if you keep a coat of grease on your > > > countershaft so the sprocket doesn't stick, changing the front > sprocket is > > > quite quick and easy. > > > > > > 1. pull out the cotter pin on your rear axle and throw it away. > Replace it > > > with a hitch pin so you don't have to mess with that the next time. > > > > > > 2. Back off your adjusting nuts (or bolts, depending on the year) on > the > > > swingarm with a 12mm wrench (on the 08+). Keep those oiled so they move > > > easily. > > > > > > > When you order your Eagle Mike prevailing torque nut, add in the Axle > > adjuster Nylock lock nut > > PIChttp://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/images/nylock.jpg>, > > which uses a 13mm wrench. > > -- > > Kevin Powers > > White Bear Lake, MN > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jeff Khoury]

...or go to ATM machines. The "M" stands for machine, dipwad! It's the Department of Redundancy Department. -Jeff Khoury

----- Original Message ----- From: "eddie" To: "KLR650 list" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:50:38 AM Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: A KLR review video Same reason folks buy "hot water heaters". No such thing. Hot water doesn't need heating. LOL eddie > [Original Message] > From: < k650@... > > To: Ron Criswell < roncriswell2@... > > Cc: DSN KLR650 < DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > Date: 6/12/2012 11:24:03 AM > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: A KLR review video > > Why does everyone call them hitch pins? It is a hitch pin clip. > > Walt > > > -----Original Message----- > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com ] On > Behalf Of Ron Criswell > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:02 > To: Kevin Powers > Cc: DSN KLR650 > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: A KLR review video > > I like cotter pins instead of hitch pins. Tree line or twigs can pull them > out (happened to me). A guy at Moab one year lost his and his front axle it > using one. > > Criswell > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 11, 2012, at 8:54 AM, Kevin Powers < PowersHouse@... > wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Jeff Khoury < jeff@... > wrote: > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > Eagle Mike's Prevailing Torque Nut eliminates the need for the bendy > > > washer that holds the countershaft nut in place. > > > > > > The threads are ground at a slightly different pitch than the ones > > > on the shaft, causing it to bind just enough so it won't back out with > vibration. > > > > > > Once you have this in place... and if you keep a coat of grease on > > > your countershaft so the sprocket doesn't stick, changing the front > > > sprocket is quite quick and easy. > > > > > > 1. pull out the cotter pin on your rear axle and throw it away. > > > Replace it with a hitch pin so you don't have to mess with that the next > time. > > > > > > 2. Back off your adjusting nuts (or bolts, depending on the year) on > > > the swingarm with a 12mm wrench (on the 08+). Keep those oiled so > > > they move easily. > > > > > > > When you order your Eagle Mike prevailing torque nut, add in the Axle > > adjuster Nylock lock nut > > PIC< http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/images/nylock.jpg >, > > which uses a 13mm wrench. > > -- > > Kevin Powers > > White Bear Lake, MN > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com Arrowhead > Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map > Group Apps: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo ! > Groups Links > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com > Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map > Group Apps: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo ! Groups Links > > >

[ron criswell]

Correction. It seems my iPad thinks for me sometimes. The guy didn't lose his axel, only the nut.....which is kinda worrisome. Criswell Sent from my iPad

On Jun 12, 2012, at 9:02 AM, Ron Criswell wrote: > I like cotter pins instead of hitch pins. Tree line or twigs can pull them out (happened to me). A guy at Moab one year lost his and his front axle it using one. > > Criswell > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 11, 2012, at 8:54 AM, Kevin Powers wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Jeff Khoury wrote: > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > Eagle Mike's Prevailing Torque Nut eliminates the need for the bendy > > > washer that holds the countershaft nut in place. > > > > > > The threads are ground at a slightly different pitch than the ones on the > > > shaft, causing it to bind just enough so it won't back out with vibration. > > > > > > Once you have this in place... and if you keep a coat of grease on your > > > countershaft so the sprocket doesn't stick, changing the front sprocket is > > > quite quick and easy. > > > > > > 1. pull out the cotter pin on your rear axle and throw it away. Replace it > > > with a hitch pin so you don't have to mess with that the next time. > > > > > > 2. Back off your adjusting nuts (or bolts, depending on the year) on the > > > swingarm with a 12mm wrench (on the 08+). Keep those oiled so they move > > > easily. > > > > > > > When you order your Eagle Mike prevailing torque nut, add in the Axle > > adjuster Nylock lock nut > > PIChttp://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/images/nylock.jpg>, > > which uses a 13mm wrench. > > -- > > Kevin Powers > > White Bear Lake, MN > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jeff Khoury]

The new front axles have no cotter pin, but I think mine would be nearly fine if I lost it, as there are 4 pinch bolts in addition to the nut. -Jeff Khoury

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Criswell" To: "Ron Criswell" Cc: "Kevin Powers" , "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 3:17:07 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: A KLR review video Correction. It seems my iPad thinks for me sometimes. The guy didn't lose his axel, only the nut.....which is kinda worrisome. Criswell Sent from my iPad On Jun 12, 2012, at 9:02 AM, Ron Criswell < roncriswell2@... > wrote: > I like cotter pins instead of hitch pins. Tree line or twigs can pull them out (happened to me). A guy at Moab one year lost his and his front axle it using one. > > Criswell > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 11, 2012, at 8:54 AM, Kevin Powers < PowersHouse@... > wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Jeff Khoury < jeff@... > wrote: > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > Eagle Mike's Prevailing Torque Nut eliminates the need for the bendy > > > washer that holds the countershaft nut in place. > > > > > > The threads are ground at a slightly different pitch than the ones on the > > > shaft, causing it to bind just enough so it won't back out with vibration. > > > > > > Once you have this in place... and if you keep a coat of grease on your > > > countershaft so the sprocket doesn't stick, changing the front sprocket is > > > quite quick and easy. > > > > > > 1. pull out the cotter pin on your rear axle and throw it away. Replace it > > > with a hitch pin so you don't have to mess with that the next time. > > > > > > 2. Back off your adjusting nuts (or bolts, depending on the year) on the > > > swingarm with a 12mm wrench (on the 08+). Keep those oiled so they move > > > easily. > > > > > > > When you order your Eagle Mike prevailing torque nut, add in the Axle > > adjuster Nylock lock nut > > PIC< http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/images/nylock.jpg >, > > which uses a 13mm wrench. > > -- > > Kevin Powers > > White Bear Lake, MN > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Tengai Mark Van Horn]

Ten Bucks!?!? I'll make my own for free out of some stainless or titanium rod I have lying around. Mark At 9:06 PM -0600 6/12/12, Mike Huber wrote:

>I've been using these since I bought my 06 4 years ago....haven't >lost one yet. > >http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kawasaki-KLR-650-KLR650-Axle-Safety-Clip-Axles-Cotter-Pin-Wheel-New-1987-2012-/280889058537?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item41664ae4e9&vxp=mtr

[Jud]

That's what I do, too, but I'm way more likely to lose one when I pull it out to adjust the chain or change a tire. BTW, I have always heard them called Jesus clips or R clips.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Chris wrote: > > I put a zip-tie around the open end of the hitch pin (aka hitch pin clip > , just for my paranoid self to not worry about it coming out. > > Chris > > > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Ron Criswell wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > I like cotter pins instead of hitch pins. Tree line or twigs can pull them > > out (happened to me). A guy at Moab one year lost his and his front axle it > > using one. > > > > Criswell > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > On Jun 11, 2012, at 8:54 AM, Kevin Powers wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Jeff Khoury wrote: > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > Eagle Mike's Prevailing Torque Nut eliminates the need for the bendy > > > > washer that holds the countershaft nut in place. > > > > > > > > The threads are ground at a slightly different pitch than the ones on > > the > > > > shaft, causing it to bind just enough so it won't back out with > > vibration. > > > > > > > > Once you have this in place... and if you keep a coat of grease on your > > > > countershaft so the sprocket doesn't stick, changing the front > > sprocket is > > > > quite quick and easy. > > > > > > > > 1. pull out the cotter pin on your rear axle and throw it away. > > Replace it > > > > with a hitch pin so you don't have to mess with that the next time. > > > > > > > > 2. Back off your adjusting nuts (or bolts, depending on the year) on > > the > > > > swingarm with a 12mm wrench (on the 08+). Keep those oiled so they move > > > > easily. > > > > > > > > > > When you order your Eagle Mike prevailing torque nut, add in the Axle > > > adjuster Nylock lock nut > > > PIChttp://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/images/nylock.jpg>, > > > which uses a 13mm wrench. > > > -- > > > Kevin Powers > > > White Bear Lake, MN > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >