klr250 (was "stolen a13, arcata ca")

[Mark St.Hilaire, Sr]

> I rode it this morning for the first time on the freeway. When I got to > work I looked on the left side of the bike (transmission) and observed > some oil leaking from around the gear shift area of the case.

Being of the "more is better" school of thought, I'd been applying chain lube like I owned the PJ1 company. On a ride, my friend noticed all the goop coming from under the front sprocket cover. I freaked out, but once my heart had settled back into a normal rhythm, I realized that what I was seeing was the result of my heavy oiling. Hopefully, that will be what your situation is. A couple other things come to mind; if you overtighten the chain, it can eventually cause the countershaft seal to leak, so it could be that. Finally, I must be a complete spaz, because when I drain my oil for a change I seem to always get a small pool of it in the aftermarket bash plate. Maybe it's that that you're seeing? And that's about it, I'm all thunk out. (Grin) Good luck, Mark KLR650 Motorcycle Pages: http://klr6500.tripod.com/ HomePage: http://home.adelphia.net/~msaint/index.html My Adelphia Email can be "iffy." If you don't get a response, please try: KLR6500@...

[kdxkawboy@aol.com]

In a message dated 2003-05-20 8:00:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time, millerized_2000@... writes:

> > > Chain oiled recently? Countershaft seal (behind the sprocket, easy > fix) oil breather on the back of the motor disconnected? 3 of many > choices.... > millerized > >

Outside of over oiling the chain I'd say the seal is the most likely culprit. Easy enough to quickly tell. If you over oiled the chain you should be seeing signs of it being flung elsewhere. If its the breather you should find oil on the top of the cases. But if you pull the countershaft sprocket cover and see the outward facing side of the countershaft sprocket is dry, the odds are if you remove the sprocket and the spacer you will signs of oil weeping out the shaft. I had to replace this seal on my 95 around 20,000 miles. Pat G'ville, Nv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[dooden]

> Outside of over oiling the chain I'd say the seal is the most likely

culprit.

> Easy enough to quickly tell. If you over oiled the chain you should

be seeing

> signs of it being flung elsewhere. If its the breather you should

find oil on

> the top of the cases. But if you pull the countershaft sprocket

cover and see

> the outward facing side of the countershaft sprocket is dry, the

odds are if

> you remove the sprocket and the spacer you will signs of oil weeping

out the

> shaft. I had to replace this seal on my 95 around 20,000 miles. > > Pat > G'ville, Nv

This is the seal that if you over insert it, becomes useless right ? The seal will not bottom out, you just make it flush with the case ? "Just in case somebody installs at home, they know kinda question" Dooden

[shadowbox42]

My 96 KLR is leaking oil around the balancer chain adjustment screw. It leaked about a 1/2 quart over the winter. Never happened until I took it to the dealer for routine service last spring and they overfilled the oil reservior after changing the oil. I thought at first they this was just overflow from the overfill but it continued after I reduced to the overfill to the appropriate level. I have had it in the shop three different time (two different shops) and they can't fix the leak. I am also concerned that they may have overtorqued the screw trying to stop the leak. Any advice?

[Mark St.Hilaire, Sr]

> My 96 KLR is leaking oil around the balancer chain adjustment screw. > It leaked about a 1/2 quart over the winter. Never happened until I > took it to the dealer for routine service last spring and they > overfilled the oil reservior after changing the oil. I thought at > first they this was just overflow from the overfill but it continued > after I reduced to the overfill to the appropriate level. I have had > it in the shop three different time (two different shops) and they > can't fix the leak. I am also concerned that they may have > overtorqued the screw trying to stop the leak. Any advice?

To *my* mind, at least now at 4:45am, the two events seem unrelated. Anything is possible, I guess, but I can't imagine why it would leak there, or for that matter, why it would leak at ALL simply because it was overfilled. Bad gasket, ding in the engine cover, etc., maybe... First, I guess, are you sure it's coming from that adjustment bolt, and not just ending up dripping from there after it's travelled from elsewhere? Did you pull the cover to check the doohickey? (Or did they?) If it's coming from there, I think *I* would pull the cover, which you can do by following the start of my doohickey procedure if you need assistance: http://klr6500.tripod.com/doohickey.htm and check the mating surfaces / gasket. Clean things up, check the cover bolts, and maybe use some non-drying silicone gasket agent to be sure of a good seal... I don't know, I may be sorry this afternoon that I replied in my fuzzy morning state, but I don't see a connection. Mark KLR650 Motorcycle Pages: http://klr6500.tripod.com/ HomePage: http://home.adelphia.net/~msaint/index.html My Adelphia Email can be "iffy." If you don't get a response, please try: KLR6500@...

[dooden]

There is a "O" ring on that screw if I remember correctly, maybe time to check the doohikey and change the "O"-ring. Lay the bike "way" over on the right side, or drain the oil first before taking the LHS cover off.. Trust me on this one MMmmmmmKay. Dooden --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "shadowbox42" wrote:

> My 96 KLR is leaking oil around the balancer chain adjustment screw. > It leaked about a 1/2 quart over the winter. Never happened until I > took it to the dealer for routine service last spring and they > overfilled the oil reservior after changing the oil. I thought at > first they this was just overflow from the overfill but it continued > after I reduced to the overfill to the appropriate level. I have had > it in the shop three different time (two different shops) and they > can't fix the leak. I am also concerned that they may have > overtorqued the screw trying to stop the leak. Any advice?

[desert_denizen]

Ok, here is one...Recently, I got have a used 1990 KLR 650. I was aware the bike has had a recent chain replacement. The bike has almost 20k miles. Now, it has been confirmed that their is an oil lead near the front small sprocket. I have heard some discussion about an oil ring?? near that sprocket that may leak. I am hoping it is nothing major as I have not investigated the true cause. If, in fact, it is the oil ring??? has anyone out there fixed this problem?? If so, can you describe it and is it difficult?? I imagine the chain needs to be removed...if so, do you need any special tools to do this? Thanks. Brian 90' KLR 650

[bigburlybaldbeardedbiker]

The chain was over-tightened. Buy a new oil seal, take off the cover over the front sprocket, 3 bolts, 10mm socket. Take the front sprocket off, 2 bolts, 10mm socket. You'll have to loosen the chain at the rear axle. Slide the front sprocket off. Pry the old oil seal out with a screw driver. Slide the new one in place. Don't push it too far, there is no shoulder to stop it. Stop when it's flush with the engine block. Put it back together, re-adjust the chain tension, leave it loose, about 2" of play, I let the bottom run of the chain loose enough to touch the swingarm. Paul Streeter '88 KLR 650 Shoreview, Minnesota -- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "desert_denizen" wrote:

> Ok, here is one...Recently, I got have a used 1990 KLR 650. I was > aware the bike has had a recent chain replacement. The bike has > almost 20k miles. Now, it has been confirmed that their is an oil > lead near the front small sprocket. I have heard some discussion > about an oil ring?? near that sprocket that may leak. I am hoping

it

> is nothing major as I have not investigated the true cause. If, in > fact, it is the oil ring??? has anyone out there fixed this

problem??

> If so, can you describe it and is it difficult?? I imagine the

chain

> needs to be removed...if so, do you need any special tools to do > this? Thanks. > > Brian > 90' KLR 650

[Allan Patton]

The most likely cause of the leak is over tightening the chain. Check out the FAQs. www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Removing the sprocket is easy, just loosen the nut before you remove the chain. Try searching the archives for info how to replace the seal. I can't tell you how, because mine has never leaked. Allan A14 68,000 miles.

----- Original Message ----- From: "desert_denizen" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 10:12 AM Subject: [DSN_klr650] oil leak > Ok, here is one...Recently, I got have a used 1990 KLR 650. I was > aware the bike has had a recent chain replacement. The bike has > almost 20k miles. Now, it has been confirmed that their is an oil > lead near the front small sprocket. I have heard some discussion > about an oil ring?? near that sprocket that may leak. I am hoping it > is nothing major as I have not investigated the true cause. If, in > fact, it is the oil ring??? has anyone out there fixed this problem?? > If so, can you describe it and is it difficult?? I imagine the chain > needs to be removed...if so, do you need any special tools to do > this? Thanks. > > Brian > 90' KLR 650 > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[Allan Patton]

----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew" > At 68000 miles what parts have you changed on your KLR? Tires and tubes. Tires many times. Chain and sprockets, several times. Front brake pads, twice. Rear brake pads, three times. Doohickey and spring at 53,000, was not broken. Spark plug, once, at 22,000. Didn't really need to. Valve shims, adjusted for the first time at 50,000. Head light, several times. Tail light, once. Changed to a 2357. Head light fuse, after it blew, changed to a 15 amp. Oil and oil filter, many times. Oil drain plug with the Moose magnetic. Oil drain plug washer, they get crushed after repeated use. Air filter. Have two, so I change out the dirty one with the clean one. Battery at three years. Clutch cable, sometime last year. Fork oil and fork boots, once. Shift lever broke at the weld, had it welded and still running the original, so it wasn't really changed. Need to change the rear brake light switch, brake fluid, coolant, and water pump seal. Yup, it's a high maintenance bike, but I still like it. Allan A14