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Don Bittle
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Post by Don Bittle » Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:40 am

Several years ago, a major outdoor mag did a comparison between a trunk load of camping gear from walmart vrs the same thing from high end suppliers. Their conclusion was that the cheapo gear did as well as the other. But it wouldn't hang in there for years like the good gear which was made from better materials and had better workmanship. The fact that they had the guts to put the article in their magazine full of ads for expensive stuff really impressed me. Personally, I won't skimp on a sleeping bag. I may buy a factory second, but there's no subsitute for being warm at night. On a side note, an employee from wmart once told me that they have a problem with people buying gear on Fri, using it that weekend, then bringing it back on mon, sometimes wet and dirty. don a17
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 6:19 AM, Jim Douglas wrote: OMG, $150.00 for an air mattress. It would have to be in the shape of Anna Nichole for me to spend that cash on that. I purchased a tent a Walmart for $9.99 and it worked find for the little bit of tenting I do. It's also super small when in it's container. > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > , Kevin Powers > wrote: > > > > The best bit of camping gear I've added of late has been an air pad ( > > http://www.rei.com/category/40001452 > http://www.rei.com/category/40001452> ) > > These are more comfortable than the thermarest pads and roll up to > the size > > of a nalgene bottle - the combination of increased comfort and > smaller size > > is a good thing. I've got an inexpensive waterproof duffel that my > camping > > gear goes in and gets strapped to the rack on the bike. > > -- > > Kevin Powers > > White Bear Lake, MN > > > > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Bob K wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We did a 4 state Western trip last year and camped about 2/3 of > the days. I > > > didn't want to wrap up alot of $$ in pricey gear so I decided to > focus on > > > small tents and camp pads along with a small sleeping bag. > > > I bought a Coleman 2 person tent and a Coleman self inflating > sleep pad. > > > The Bag was a Dicks sporting goods 10 degree bag that rolled up > real small. > > > > > > I was pleased with all of it and only had about $125 in all 3 > > > These were all bought New. > > > You really don't have to spend alot for these thing if you look hard. > > > > > > Bob 09 KLR > > > 2007 FJR 1300 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > To: charlesf@...; dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com > > > > From: bounder36@... > > > Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:29:47 +0000 > > > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Bike packable tents and camping gear > > > > > > > > > > > > Chuck, > > > > > > REI has a great selection of tents. > > > > > > Something else that really improves a night in the tent is a very > small > > > cot. Many manufactures are making them now, I've had one for 20 > years and > > > sleep as comfortably in the tent as I do at home. Of course I Also > bring > > > the pillow off my bed and a foam pad too. > > > > > > I'm ready to go camping too and shake this crappy cabin fever once > and for > > > all. > > > > > > Greg > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > > From: charlesf@... > > > Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:07:58 -0400 > > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Bike packable tents and camping gear > > > > > > > > > I am guessing that I am not the only person here on this list, with a > > > KLR, that likes to camp. And, spring is upon us, with summer soon to > > > follow. Well, I hope, anyway. :-) > > > > > > I am looking at some "backpacking" tents, that would be > bike-packable on > > > the KLR. I am specifically looking for a 2-3 person (read 2 people > and a > > > small amount of gear) size. > > > > > > Naturally, I also need to carry other things, such as camp stoves, > sleeping > > > bag, food/drink, etc., so size/weight is an issue. > > > > > > I'm sort of planning my "kit" now, and I was wondering if anyone had > > > suggestions...... perhaps examples of the gear they use, or even > photos of > > > how you packed your bike. > > > > > > I have a 2009, so the rack is a bit larger than the older > versions. I have > > > the factory tail bag, but I am also considering options > specifically for > > > camping; also, I will have my wife with me, so I can't use that seat > > > space..... > > > > > > Thanks in advance for suggestions, etc. > > > Chuck F. > > > NE PA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. > Sign up > > > now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/ > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/>> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. > Sign up > > > now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/ > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/>> > > > > > > > > > > -- *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:* This email, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information of Genesis Software and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. 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Bogdan Swider
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Post by Bogdan Swider » Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:04 am

Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Bike packable tents and camping gear For once in a while car camping the cheapo stuff will work. But.....I still haven’t seen a cheap tent or sleeping bag that you will pack tight and weigh little and therefore you can take backpacking or klriing. Bogdan
On 3/23/10 8:40 AM, "Don Bittle" donbittle@...> wrote:
        Several years ago, a major outdoor mag did a comparison between a trunk load of camping gear from walmart vrs the same thing from high end suppliers. Their conclusion was that the cheapo gear did as well as the other. But it wouldn't hang in there for years like the good gear which was made from better materials and had better workmanship. The fact that they had the guts to put the article in their magazine full of ads for expensive stuff really impressed me. Personally, I won't skimp on a sleeping bag. I may buy a factory second, but there's no subsitute for being warm at night. On a side note, an employee from wmart once told me that they have a problem with people buying gear on Fri, using it that weekend, then bringing it back on mon, sometimes wet and dirty. don a17 On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 6:19 AM, Jim Douglas james.douglas@...> wrote: [quote]OMG, $150.00 for an air mattress. It would have to be in the shape of Anna Nichole for me to spend that cash on that. I purchased a tent a Walmart for $9.99 and it worked find for the little bit of tenting I do. It's also super small when in it's container. > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > >, Kevin Powers > wrote: > > > > The best bit of camping gear I've added of late has been an air pad ( > > http://www.rei.com/category/40001452 > http://www.rei.com/category/40001452> ) > > These are more comfortable than the thermarest pads and roll up to > the size > > of a nalgene bottle - the combination of increased comfort and > smaller size > > is a good thing. I've got an inexpensive waterproof duffel that my > camping > > gear goes in and gets strapped to the rack on the bike. > > -- > > Kevin Powers > > White Bear Lake, MN > > > > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Bob K wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We did a 4 state Western trip last year and camped about 2/3 of > the days. I > > > didn't want to wrap up alot of $$ in pricey gear so I decided to > focus on > > > small tents and camp pads along with a small sleeping bag. > > > I bought a Coleman 2 person tent and a Coleman self inflating > sleep pad. > > > The Bag was a Dicks sporting goods 10 degree bag that rolled up > real small. > > > > > > I was pleased with all of it and only had about $125 in all 3 > > > These were all bought New. > > > You really don't have to spend alot for these thing if you look hard. > > > > > > Bob 09 KLR > > > 2007 FJR 1300 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > To: charlesf@...; dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com > > > > > From: bounder36@... > > > Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:29:47 +0000 > > > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Bike packable tents and camping gear > > > > > > > > > > > > Chuck, > > > > > > REI has a great selection of tents. > > > > > > Something else that really improves a night in the tent is a very > small > > > cot. Many manufactures are making them now, I've had one for 20 > years and > > > sleep as comfortably in the tent as I do at home. Of course I Also > bring > > > the pillow off my bed and a foam pad too. > > > > > > I'm ready to go camping too and shake this crappy cabin fever once > and for > > > all. > > > > > > Greg > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > > > From: charlesf@... > > > Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:07:58 -0400 > > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Bike packable tents and camping gear > > > > > > > > > I am guessing that I am not the only person here on this list, with a > > > KLR, that likes to camp. And, spring is upon us, with summer soon to > > > follow. Well, I hope, anyway. :-) > > > > > > I am looking at some "backpacking" tents, that would be > bike-packable on > > > the KLR. I am specifically looking for a 2-3 person (read 2 people > and a > > > small amount of gear) size. > > > > > > Naturally, I also need to carry other things, such as camp stoves, > sleeping > > > bag, food/drink, etc., so size/weight is an issue. > > > > > > I'm sort of planning my "kit" now, and I was wondering if anyone had > > > suggestions...... perhaps examples of the gear they use, or even > photos of > > > how you packed your bike. > > > > > > I have a 2009, so the rack is a bit larger than the older > versions. I have > > > the factory tail bag, but I am also considering options > specifically for > > > camping; also, I will have my wife with me, so I can't use that seat > > > space..... > > > > > > Thanks in advance for suggestions, etc. > > > Chuck F. > > > NE PA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. > Sign up > > > now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/ > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/>> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. > Sign up > > > now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/ > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/>> > > > > > > > > > > -- *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:* This email, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information of Genesis Software and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. 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Post by skypilot110 » Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:19 am

I agree that good sleping bags are a must but tents never last me 5 years because they were through while traveling. The wind and vibration gets them before the camping wear does. That is why I still think cheap is better for KLRing
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Don Bittle wrote: > > Several years ago, a major outdoor mag did a comparison between a trunk load > of camping gear from walmart vrs the same thing from high end suppliers. > Their conclusion was that the cheapo gear did as well as the other. But it > wouldn't hang in there for years like the good gear which was made from > better materials and had better workmanship. The fact that they had the guts > to put the article in their magazine full of ads for expensive stuff really > impressed me. > Personally, I won't skimp on a sleeping bag. I may buy a factory second, but > there's no subsitute for being warm at night. >

Jud
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Post by Jud » Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:02 am

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Don Bittle wrote:
> > On a side note, an employee from wmart once told me that they have a problem > with people buying gear on Fri, using it that weekend, then bringing it back > on mon, sometimes wet and dirty. > don > a17
Now there is a useful hint. Can't say I have done it myself, but I have seen it done, and it really, really works.

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Post by revmaaatin » Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:38 pm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Scott Reitor wrote:
> > Cuhck, > > The advice on getting a cheapo tent is spot on. I have been camping for over > 3 decades and have changed tents a few times. I have different tents for > different types of weather, modes of travel, length of stay, etc. Buy a > cheap one and figure out where you want to go from there.
May I suggest one to avoid? I lack the years of experience--but have had years of 'training' in few short days! Footprint size and rainfly matter. Avoid: the cheep-o, Ozark Trail dome tent, with approx 6x6 footprint. I'm 5-9. should work right? ah, no. Anywhere you touch the tent, water is going to enter. Being 5-9 gives you about a 6-6 footprint with the sleeping bag, etal, and is very difficult to keep from touching the tent wall due to the arc of the dome, etc. Also, take a look at the 'cheep-o' tent's rain fly. This tent only had a rain fly for the top 1 foot radius of the dome; when the wind blew, it pushed the rain under the rain fly and I got a nice misty shower as long a s the rain and wind blew. My next tent (spoken of here) was the Eureka 3xta. (The style/badging for the 3xta style has changed--its all marketing mumbojumbo; call the company and ask for the current equivalent--now sold under a different name and perhaps a different color. I think the new name is APEX--ask to be sure) A wonderful piece of gear. Likewise, I bought it in the seconds dept; liked it so well, I bought two more, one for my 14 and 11 y/0 for their own adventure motorcycles riding. The 3 in 3xta indicates it is 3person, 3 season. It is pretty snug with two M/c folks--riding gear, helments, boots, and luggage. Very comfortable with just one. smile. This tent has a >80% rain fly, two vestibules that are adequate to put the m/c luggage inside if it is raining. The double vestibule is good for when two people share the tent--each has its own entrance for those nighttime potty visits without stepping on you. The only downside--it is about the size of two loaves of bread, but IMO well worth the trade off for the level of protection. http://www.eurekatent.com/default.aspx Touch the tab marked OUTLET. Give them a call--will be worth the effort to talk to someone face to face. When I called them last January, I could not remember the exact name for my tent. Three years after I bought me first tent from them, I was still on record, and was able to buy the same tent again. Did I mention how important the rainfly was? It rained everyday from Canada to Mexico--and more than 1/2 of that was at night! HTH. revmaaatin.

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Post by Bogdan Swider » Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:33 pm

Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Bike packable tents and camping gear Here’s a link about the  Envirogear Cocoon I mentioned in a previous post. Anyone have any idea what happened to this guy and his project ?. http://www.nytimes.com/1991/09/14/news/featherbed-in-the-breeze.html?pagewanted=1 Bogdan
On 3/23/10 1:37 PM, "revmaaatin" mjearl@...> wrote:
        --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com , Scott Reitor wrote: > > Cuhck, > > The advice on getting a cheapo tent is spot on. I have been camping for over > 3 decades and have changed tents a few times. I have different tents for > different types of weather, modes of travel, length of stay, etc. Buy a > cheap one and figure out where you want to go from there. May I suggest one to avoid?  I lack the years of experience--but have had years of 'training' in few short days! Footprint size and rainfly matter. Avoid:  the cheep-o, Ozark Trail dome tent, with approx 6x6 footprint.  I'm 5-9.  should work right?  ah, no. Anywhere you touch the tent, water is going to enter.  Being 5-9 gives you about a 6-6 footprint with the sleeping bag, etal, and is very difficult to keep from touching the tent wall due to the arc of the dome, etc. Also, take a look at the 'cheep-o' tent's rain fly.  This tent only had a rain fly for the top 1 foot radius of the dome; when the wind blew, it pushed the rain under the rain fly and I got a nice misty shower as long a s the rain and wind blew. My next tent (spoken of here) was the Eureka 3xta.  (The style/badging for the 3xta style has changed--its all marketing mumbojumbo; call the company and ask for the current equivalent--now sold under a different name and perhaps a different color.  I think the new name is APEX--ask to be sure) A wonderful piece of gear.  Likewise, I bought it in the seconds dept;  liked it so well, I bought two more, one for my 14 and 11 y/0 for their own adventure motorcycles riding. The 3 in 3xta indicates it is 3person, 3 season.  It is pretty snug with two M/c folks--riding gear, helments, boots, and luggage.  Very comfortable with just one. smile. This tent has a >80% rain fly, two vestibules that are adequate to put the m/c luggage inside if it is raining.  The double vestibule is good for when two people share the tent--each has its own entrance for those nighttime potty visits without stepping on you.   The only downside--it is about the size of two loaves of bread, but IMO well worth the trade off for the level of protection. http://www.eurekatent.com/default.aspx Touch the tab marked OUTLET.  Give them a call--will be worth the effort to talk to someone face to face.  When I called them last January, I could not remember the exact name for my tent.  Three years after I bought me first tent from them, I was still on record, and was able to buy the same tent again. Did I mention how important the rainfly was?   It rained everyday from Canada to Mexico--and more than 1/2 of that was at night!   HTH. revmaaatin.      

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Post by mark ward » Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:35 pm