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phibene
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Post by phibene » Sun May 18, 2008 2:07 pm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Bill Watson wrote:
> > >>If you use WD40 as chain lube your an idiot. > Just sayin' > Love, > Sean > ------------------------------------------------- > > Count me in as another idiot. I'm at 31,000 miles on the stock
chain, and have been using WD40 on the chain since the day I bought the bike at 900 miles. My science experiment continues. I wonder where it will finally die?
> Bill >
Hello Bill, I am watching your chain experiment attentively. My recent chain 'explosion' might shed some light on what you are doing. My new to me KLR bike, 20,401 on the odometer, likely the OEM chain--actual chain mileage--unknown, came with a full sprocket set/chain, and the 'estimation' that you should easily be able to ride it home from Dallas, TX, to central SD. With that assurance, off I went. Arriving at home ~1500 smiles later, I did a precursory chain check--pulling the chain away from the rear sprocket to see how much space existed between the chain and sprocket. From my 1960-70's days on various dirt bikes--if you could stick a #2 phillips between the sprocket and the chain...it needed replacement. Yes, not very scientific--but satisfactory for my needs. (I do have a chain stretch gauge (from Fred)...but I am not as smart as my 6th grader who was not present to read me the instructions. cough.) Monday, after returning on Sunday, I did a 'chain-pull' and saw there was about 1/2 of the diameter of a screw driver. Off I went. 55 miles later--Tuesday evening. I had an uneasy feeling that I should check my chain again--checked by doing a chain pull--it was now large enough to put 2-#2 Phillips screwdrivers in the space between the sprocket and chain. Easily 75% of the chain rollers were gone. I wished I had checked the chain with a strecth guide to see if it had really wore in the pins--or if it was just a roller failure. I looked at the pins, all O-rings were present, just the rollers were missing. Perhaps Jeff Saline could look at the chain and measure it for us. It is in repository in the shadow of the Black Hills. So, my dear Watson--keep an eye on the rollers! I would suspect that there is significant wear on the rollers. Is there a 'minimum' roller size? I would guess there is. My first clue that something was 'coming unglued' was the tapping on the bottom of my feet while resting them on the rear foot pegs as I rode. First thought it was loose straps. No. Rocks? Not on a ashpalt. The rollers had started coming apart--actually splitting-- in the later part of the 1500 Dallas to South Dakota phase, but I was not cognitive enough to recognize what I was experiencing. Something about God protecting Children and 'others'. That would be me. revmaaatin.

fasteddiecopeman
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Post by fasteddiecopeman » Wed May 21, 2008 11:35 am

Sean, I figure I'm in GOOD company whenever Bill and I are on the same side in a discussion: MY '04 KLR has 44,410.6 kms on it's ORIGINAL chain (that's 27,534.6 miles for the metrically challenged), several thousand of which were added riding WITH Bill near Phoenix. For the first half of that mileage I used various chain lubes, but after discussing it with Bill I've used NOTHING but WD40 on it since. And, the chain's been adjusted probably 5 or 6 times...! Guess I'm an idiot too.... Sure GLAD you didn't say we were fools for lubing with WD40... then I'd PROBABLY have to kill myself. Have a nice day ;>) Ed
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Bill Watson wrote: > > >>If you use WD40 as chain lube your an idiot. > Just sayin' > Love, > Sean > ------------------------------------------------- > > Count me in as another idiot. I'm at 31,000 miles on the stock chain, and have been using WD40 on the chain since the day I bought the bike at 900 miles. My science experiment continues. I wonder where it will finally die? > Bill > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

oldrider25
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Post by oldrider25 » Thu May 22, 2008 10:03 am

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, matteeanne@... wrote:
> Being a Red One, it is of course already faster than any other color
Agreed. But, mine's blue and blue has been proven to perform better offroad. This was important to me since I'm an offroad noob and wanted to make sure I had the best possible steed for offroad adventures. I had to pay extra to get blue in 1996. But, it was worth it. The salesman even convinced me to buy the kickstand and clutch safety switches for only $500 extra! He almost sold me on the manual ABS for $1,500. He must've thought I was a sucker!
> but the Red Ones, pure torque.
Mine ran funny. So, the salesman told me I needed to sync the carbs. If I didn't, it would feel like I was only running on one cylinder. He had the shop perform a Level 10 service for half price - only $250. Am I a great negotiator or what?!
> If you use WD40 as chain lube your an idiot.
I agree: only an idiot would use WD-40 as chain lube. However, I do use WD-40 instead of 10w-40 in the crankcase.
> Just sayin'
Me too. John

Michael Martin
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Post by Michael Martin » Thu May 22, 2008 3:20 pm

--- Jacobus De Bruyn wrote:
> Could it be that one of the washers around the Banjo > bolts in the rubber line leaked air? Could that > provoke seizure?
Absolutely not.
> > So MC-guru Carlos checked the piston and the boot, and > suggested some fine waterproof sandpaper, and cutting > the boot to the appropriate size. So I have done > that, and used some black sillicone on the boot. > I had to cut abt 4 mm. to make it fit. It is back > into the caliper, drying, and it all looks good, > McGiver style. If you keep the brake lever in its > right position, oil will dribble down of its own > accord, and saves a hell of a lot of pumping.
In my experience, you don't have to move the brake lever to a certain position to have brake fluid dribble out of the bleeder. This should happen with the brake master cylinder in its released position. It's possible that the master cylinder has something plugging the smaller of the two holes which are in its cylinder bore, or the piston isn't returning fully when you release the pedal, or the seal on the piston has swelled and covers the small hole. I would disassemble the master cylinder and check that everything is OK with it. If there was nothing found in the caliper to explain the brake drag, then there's something keeping the pressure from fully releasing. Most likely it's the master cylinder, but it's theoretically possible that the brake hose is the culprit (not likely IMHO).
> It all seems very obvious if you know, how come you > know? Someone taught you, showed you. That s why I > come on this site, to get knowledge. Unless you want > to know about the single mother next door, who begged > me for a date. Should I ask my wife for permission? > I guess I ll soon be riding. Jacostarica. >
Yep, better go riding before you multiply your troubles! Mike Martin, Louisville, KY

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