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[Max Sinklair]

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[blocloc]

I think TKC 80's suck as well as OEM Dunnys........

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[rockiedog2]

Guys Am planning a Prudhoe Bay trip from SE US in June. Would like to start out on a new set of tires that should get me there and then somewhere this side of Fairbanks on the way back...understand there may be some mud involved. Those that have done it...what would you recommend? Thanks Joe

[traderpro2003]

Joe - I used a stock front tire and Pirelli MT60 on the rear. I'd say this is a 70% street and 30% off-road set-up. The vast majority of your riding is going to be street. The 600 miles from Fairbanks to PB is a mixed bag. The first say 50 miles is paved but after that it's a hard pack dirt until it gets wet. Then it can become an absolute nightmare. Part of it was a big mess due to construction when I went through last year. It was July when I drove it with my girlfriend on the back. One hill we dubbed hamburger hill because not only did we slip and slide the whole way up, we flung mud everywhere. It was a real mess. At one point, I had to drive the bike over to a river and lay it down and scrub the radiator. We were over-heating because it was plugged with a thick, clay-like mud. It doesn't wash-off easily either. A small scrub brush would be most useful and pressure washer ideal. Other than this, I saw guys riding BMWs to road bikes like Harleys. I'm not sure they made it to PB, but most of them made it to the Yukon bridge. I found a lot of bikers stuck there b/c there was no gas for a few days...how ironic. But with my near 7 gal. plastic tank, I made it from Coldfoot back to Fairbanks. As for the trip...I can't recommend it. I drove my truck with the KLR on a Tilt-A-Rack from San Diego to Yukon. We kayaked the Yukon (from Whitehorse, YT) to Circle, AK and hitched a ride to Fairbanks. I took a cab to the airport and flew back to YT and got my truck and KLR. This was an incredible experience. Next I drove back to Fairbanks and suited up to ride to PB. The ride itself was fairly boring. Highlights are things like fireweed hillsides, caribou, and musk ox. Other than this, it was cold, rainy and the camping sucked. We spent a night on the boggy tundru that's like sleeping on 3-ft tall soaking sponge. The mosquitos sucked as bad as the price of gas...$3.80/gal (probably higher now). I'm not going to discourage you from going as to each his own. But considering the length of driving--it's a long, uneventful ride--I'd go riding out west Moab, Death Valley, Baja or a Copper Canyon. Prudoe Bay is a mud pit and has nothing to see...I mean nothing. Sure, you can do the lame bus tour and go swim in the Beaufort Sea under the watchful eye of the shuttle bus driver while being extremely careful notto step on a nail or other metal debris, but why? The food at the hotel (if you call it that) is bland. I'll never go back there. I think everyone thinks there's more there or along the way but there's not. If anything, I'm just trying to be honest and give you my experience. I've riden all over the world and would never go back here if that tells you anything. The trucks flying-by are very dangerous due to debris. There are big hills down and then back up the other side and the trucks don't hold back on speed. I found if I slowed down to a crawl, they did the same. Sometimes I even pulled to the side and gave them a huge berth which they seemed happy and slowed considerably. One guy drove his Toyota 4-Runner from Texas and (I'm not kidding) duct taped cardboard on the entire driver's side to deflect oncoming projectiles. I have a funny photo of it somewhere. This is a testiment to how serious the stakes are. If you go fast and careless, it seems the trucks do the same. And if you're lucky and it's dry, the dust is heinous. Get behind a big truck and you're stuck. Passing blindly is suicidal and the truck driver probably is not going to help. Regardless of your decision, tires aren't really going to matter unless the tread is gone and it's easier to pierce the tire. I suppose you could ride road tires all the way and then switch to a more 50-50 when you arrive at Fairbanks. There is a Kawasaki dealer there that could help you change them or even keep a set of used tires you could ship there ahead of time. Funny, I stopped in at that dealer and two KLR 650s were for sale on consignment. Two guys from Miami bought them, rode to PB and there they have sat since the guys returned. They had some accessories on them and were asking $5,700! It's no wonder they're still there a year later. I'm pretty familiar with Fairbanks and Alaska in general (even Valdez...kayaked Valdez to Whittier...Prince William Sound is brilliant!), so if you need help/suggestions (if I haven't torpedoed your trip already) email me. I wish the trip was a better destination but it my experience. I wanted to share reality and perhaps offer some other suggestions for trips that are closer and far more rewarding. - Brian

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "rockiedog2" wrote: > > Guys > Am planning a Prudhoe Bay trip from SE US in June. Would like to start > out on a new set of tires that should get me there and then somewhere > this side of Fairbanks on the way back...understand there may be some > mud involved. Those that have done it...what would you recommend? > Thanks Joe >

[fasteddiecopeman]

I KNOW you'll have guys chiming in that they're no good, but ... Kenda K270's! I run 36 psi front and rear and get 16,000 kms (about 10,000 miles) out of a set. Last summer's Alaska trip (admittedly only to Skagway, but also to Bella Coola, BC) took 15 riding days of which 12 (YES, twelve!!!) were in rain. Day #2 was 9 1/2 hours of MODERATE to HEAVY thunderstorms from Little Smoky, Alberta to mid-way between Fort St John and Fort Nelson, BC. I had soft saddle bags, tank bag, plus a 'canoe' waterproof bag holding my tent, sleeping bag and matt across the passenger seat, so I was LOADED! Enroute to Bella Coola, we road in rain, snow, hail and about 60 to 80 kms of mud, and that included the (in)famous "Hill", which loses 1 mile of altitude in 11 miles. That's an AVERAGE 8% grade, but as much as 18%. Google "Bella Coola" if it sounds far-fetched to you.... Not once did I 'slide into a ditch while cornering', and my experience is that the K270s will corner VERY aggressively, altho' they are quite noisy once the center part flattens out. I expect to get all or most of this winter in Arizona on the same tires which were new when I headed north on 02 June. There - my 2 cents worth. Cheers, Ed-in-Mesa-for-the-winter

[Jud Jones]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "fasteddiecopeman" wrote:

> > I KNOW you'll have guys chiming in that they're no good, but ... Kenda K270's! > > I run 36 psi front and rear and get 16,000 kms (about 10,000 miles) out of a set. Last > summer's Alaska trip (admittedly only to Skagway, but also to Bella Coola, BC) took 15 > riding days of which 12 (YES, twelve!!!) were in rain. Day #2 was 9 1/2 hours of

MODERATE

> to HEAVY thunderstorms from Little Smoky, Alberta to mid-way between Fort St John

and

> Fort Nelson, BC. I had soft saddle bags, tank bag, plus a 'canoe' waterproof bag holding > my tent, sleeping bag and matt across the passenger seat, so I was LOADED! > > Enroute to Bella Coola, we road in rain, snow, hail and about 60 to 80 kms of mud, and > that included the (in)famous "Hill", which loses 1 mile of altitude in 11 miles. That's an > AVERAGE 8% grade, but as much as 18%. Google "Bella Coola" if it sounds far-fetched to > you.... > > Not once did I 'slide into a ditch while cornering', and my experience is that the K270s

will

> corner VERY aggressively, altho' they are quite noisy once the center part flattens out. I > expect to get all or most of this winter in Arizona on the same tires which were new

when I

> headed north on 02 June. > > There - my 2 cents worth. > > Cheers, > Ed-in-Mesa-for-the-winter >

K270s would be my choice for any trip over 3000 miles.

[mikeypep]

Did you say chime in? I'd be glad to. I had a K270 front for about 6000 miles. Plenty of cornering force and no sliding. The only reason I dumped it was that I was getting some very unusual wear. The front of the treadblock was like new and the rear of each tread block was almost to the casing! I run about 30PSI and brake pretty heavy witih the front. Thats probably why I got this half-assed tread pattern. They were just too noisy. Otherwias they worked just fine. Thet air always stayed on the inside.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jud Jones" wrote: > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "fasteddiecopeman" > wrote: > > > > I KNOW you'll have guys chiming in that they're no good, but ... Kenda K270's! > > > > I run 36 psi front and rear and get 16,000 kms (about 10,000 miles) out of a set. Last > > summer's Alaska trip (admittedly only to Skagway, but also to Bella Coola, BC) took 15 > > riding days of which 12 (YES, twelve!!!) were in rain. Day #2 was 9 1/2 hours of > MODERATE > > to HEAVY thunderstorms from Little Smoky, Alberta to mid-way between Fort St John > and > > Fort Nelson, BC. I had soft saddle bags, tank bag, plus a 'canoe' waterproof bag holding > > my tent, sleeping bag and matt across the passenger seat, so I was LOADED! > > > > Enroute to Bella Coola, we road in rain, snow, hail and about 60 to 80 kms of mud, and > > that included the (in)famous "Hill", which loses 1 mile of altitude in 11 miles. That's an > > AVERAGE 8% grade, but as much as 18%. Google "Bella Coola" if it sounds far-fetched to > > you.... > > > > Not once did I 'slide into a ditch while cornering', and my experience is that the K270s > will > > corner VERY aggressively, altho' they are quite noisy once the center part flattens out. I > > expect to get all or most of this winter in Arizona on the same tires which were new > when I > > headed north on 02 June. > > > > There - my 2 cents worth. > > > > Cheers, > > Ed-in-Mesa-for-the-winter > > > > K270s would be my choice for any trip over 3000 miles. >

[traderpro2003]

Anyone like/dislike the Mefos? I just bought a set and will install for South America. I'm considering more of a street bias say 70% but not sure what such a good high-mileage tire would be...coming from a Dunlop 606 guy...

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "mikeypep" wrote: > > Did you say chime in? I'd be glad to. I had a K270 front for about > 6000 miles. Plenty of cornering force and no sliding. The only reason > I dumped it was that I was getting some very unusual wear. The front > of the treadblock was like new and the rear of each tread block was > almost to the casing! I run about 30PSI and brake pretty heavy witih > the front. Thats probably why I got this half-assed tread pattern. > They were just too noisy. Otherwias they worked just fine. > Thet air always stayed on the inside. > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jud Jones" wrote: > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "fasteddiecopeman" > > > wrote: > > > > > > I KNOW you'll have guys chiming in that they're no good, but ... > Kenda K270's! > > > > > > I run 36 psi front and rear and get 16,000 kms (about 10,000 > miles) out of a set. Last > > > summer's Alaska trip (admittedly only to Skagway, but also to > Bella Coola, BC) took 15 > > > riding days of which 12 (YES, twelve!!!) were in rain. Day #2 was > 9 1/2 hours of > > MODERATE > > > to HEAVY thunderstorms from Little Smoky, Alberta to mid-way > between Fort St John > > and > > > Fort Nelson, BC. I had soft saddle bags, tank bag, plus a 'canoe' > waterproof bag holding > > > my tent, sleeping bag and matt across the passenger seat, so I > was LOADED! > > > > > > Enroute to Bella Coola, we road in rain, snow, hail and about 60 > to 80 kms of mud, and > > > that included the (in)famous "Hill", which loses 1 mile of > altitude in 11 miles. That's an > > > AVERAGE 8% grade, but as much as 18%. Google "Bella Coola" if it > sounds far-fetched to > > > you.... > > > > > > Not once did I 'slide into a ditch while cornering', and my > experience is that the K270s > > will > > > corner VERY aggressively, altho' they are quite noisy once the > center part flattens out. I > > > expect to get all or most of this winter in Arizona on the same > tires which were new > > when I > > > headed north on 02 June. > > > > > > There - my 2 cents worth. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Ed-in-Mesa-for-the-winter > > > > > > > K270s would be my choice for any trip over 3000 miles. > > >

[Michael Nelson]

On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 10:00:08PM -0000, traderpro2003 wrote:

> Anyone like/dislike the Mefos?

I have the Explorers on my bike and like them a lot. About 4K miles on them now and they look about 1/2 done. One tip... several folks have reported that the front Explorer works better, lasts longer and cups less if you mount it backwards. I am going to mount my next front that way. Michael -- "It's not what I don't understand about religion that bothers me, it's what I do understand." -- Mark Twain San Francisco, CA

[Spike55]

I now have 5K+ miles on a set of MEFO Explorer 99s. I like them a lot but most of the miles have been on the road. I've routinely leaned it over while carrying a week's worth of camping gear in wet weather and these tires never slipped out on me. I've never gotten a scare on any of the approx. 1K miles on dirt roads / coal piles that I've traveled on in both wet or dry conditions. Great all-round tire for me. I'm seeing cupping of the front tread (high in the middle and outside edge). The rear is getting flat in the middle but still has 3K-4K miles left. These are a bit noisy but with their stiff sidewalls, they can get you home with less than 10-15 psi left in them. I may try the reversed tread on the front with the next pair. Don R100, A6F --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "traderpro2003" wrote:

> > Anyone like/dislike the Mefos? I just bought a set and will

install

> for South America. I'm considering more of a street bias say 70%

but

> not sure what such a good high-mileage tire would be...coming from

a

> Dunlop 606 guy... > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "mikeypep" wrote: > > > > Did you say chime in? I'd be glad to. I had a K270 front for

about

> > 6000 miles. Plenty of cornering force and no sliding. The only > reason > > I dumped it was that I was getting some very unusual wear. The > front > > of the treadblock was like new and the rear of each tread block

was

> > almost to the casing! I run about 30PSI and brake pretty heavy > witih > > the front. Thats probably why I got this half-assed tread

pattern.

> > They were just too noisy. Otherwias they worked just fine. > > Thet air always stayed on the inside. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jud Jones" wrote: > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "fasteddiecopeman" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I KNOW you'll have guys chiming in that they're no good, > but ... > > Kenda K270's! > > > > > > > > I run 36 psi front and rear and get 16,000 kms (about 10,000 > > miles) out of a set. Last > > > > summer's Alaska trip (admittedly only to Skagway, but also to > > Bella Coola, BC) took 15 > > > > riding days of which 12 (YES, twelve!!!) were in rain. Day #2 > was > > 9 1/2 hours of > > > MODERATE > > > > to HEAVY thunderstorms from Little Smoky, Alberta to mid-way > > between Fort St John > > > and > > > > Fort Nelson, BC. I had soft saddle bags, tank bag, plus > a 'canoe' > > waterproof bag holding > > > > my tent, sleeping bag and matt across the passenger seat, so

I

> > was LOADED! > > > > > > > > Enroute to Bella Coola, we road in rain, snow, hail and about > 60 > > to 80 kms of mud, and > > > > that included the (in)famous "Hill", which loses 1 mile of > > altitude in 11 miles. That's an > > > > AVERAGE 8% grade, but as much as 18%. Google "Bella Coola" if > it > > sounds far-fetched to > > > > you.... > > > > > > > > Not once did I 'slide into a ditch while cornering', and my > > experience is that the K270s > > > will > > > > corner VERY aggressively, altho' they are quite noisy once

the

> > center part flattens out. I > > > > expect to get all or most of this winter in Arizona on the

same

> > tires which were new > > > when I > > > > headed north on 02 June. > > > > > > > > There - my 2 cents worth. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Ed-in-Mesa-for-the-winter > > > > > > > > > > K270s would be my choice for any trip over 3000 miles. > > > > > >