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[Bogdan Swider]

> > > My usual approach for motorcycle tires is: > * Always run a matched pair

Hmm I often run different types and brands front and rear, no problems.

> * Replace both at the same time

that I really don t get as the rear usually wears way quicker

> * Don't run a patched or slimed tire for any longer than it takes to > get to the shop for a replacement. > > No argument here if you mean tube not tire. > > * Sticky is good, wear rate be damned.

Guess you don t do long trips.

> > I'm generally conservative in my gear/equipment choices, partly to > make up for being occasionally stupid in my riding choices. > > --mkb > > OK, Bogdan >

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[scottbtorell]

Let's talk tires... Lookig for some opinions on various brands I do 80 street & 20 dirt I'll do country roads, side streets, a few highways but mostly everything under 70MPH I have 2300 miles on the 06KLR650 stockers and lovin the bike! A few guys are running 606's and they claim great dirt and good street as well. I'm in Texas near Houston so I need a good buy on some tires and mounting. Thanks for any help!

[Jud Jones]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "scottbtorell" wrote:

> > Let's talk tires... > > Lookig for some opinions on various brands > > I do 80 street & 20 dirt > > I'll do country roads, side streets, a few highways but mostly > everything under 70MPH > > I have 2300 miles on the 06KLR650 stockers and lovin the bike! > > A few guys are running 606's and they claim great dirt and good street > as well. > > I'm in Texas near Houston so I need a good buy on some tires and > mounting. > > Thanks for any help! >

If you want to save some money, are not a scratcher on the street, and want a tire that delivers good mileage and decent offroad performance, the Kenda k270 is what you want., or else the Cheng Shin 858. These tires will both outlast their more expensive competition. The D606 is the best tire in its class, but won't last as long as the first two. You probably don't need quite that aggressive a tire.

[Michael Silverstein]

Here's a few opinions on tires: www.standoutnet.com/extras/mike/motorcy ... r650/tires Mike A18 -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of scottbtorell Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 6:22 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Tires Let's talk tires... Lookig for some opinions on various brands I do 80 street & 20 dirt I'll do country roads, side streets, a few highways but mostly everything under 70MPH I have 2300 miles on the 06KLR650 stockers and lovin the bike! A few guys are running 606's and they claim great dirt and good street as well. I'm in Texas near Houston so I need a good buy on some tires and mounting. Thanks for any help! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jud Jones" wrote:

> > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "scottbtorell"

wrote:

> > > > Let's talk tires... > > > > Lookig for some opinions on various brands > > > > I do 80 street & 20 dirt > > > > I'll do country roads, side streets, a few highways but mostly > > everything under 70MPH > > > > I have 2300 miles on the 06KLR650 stockers and lovin the bike! > > > > A few guys are running 606's and they claim great dirt and good

street

> > as well. > > > > I'm in Texas near Houston so I need a good buy on some tires and > > mounting. > > > > Thanks for any help! > > > > If you want to save some money, are not a scratcher on the street,

and want a tire that

> delivers good mileage and decent offroad performance, the Kenda

k270 is what you want.,

> or else the Cheng Shin 858. These tires will both outlast their

more expensive

> competition. The D606 is the best tire in its class, but won't last

as long as the first two.

> You probably don't need quite that aggressive a tire. >

Just to build on what Judd is suggesting; You will only ride to the level/environment that your bike is properly equipped to ride in. If you do buy a tire that is more 50/50 (K270) rather than what some suggest as a 80/20, you will ride more confidently in those 20% situations, the more difficult situations, and in all likelihood, you will go looking for more gravel and fire roads. All that said, many believe the K270 is inadequate for wet roads--but I contend, that wet conditions require all of to pay an extreme attention to what we are doing, and never expect 'a-lot' from any motorcycle tire in wet conditions. On such days, a cage might be a better choice (if we have any prior planning/choice in the matter), if a chage is not an option, then slow down, way down.... All things considered, I would love to have a 2d KLR with 'great' street tires, and one with K270's. Some have gone so far as to buy a second set of wheels so that they can make that change and only have one bike. Our friend Jeff Saline has correctly suggested that using a tire like the K270 is its own self-regulating speed-control. We [on the k270 tire] ride faster in the gravel/fire road/prairie section lines, and a little slower in the SD Black Hills canyons, but still fast enough to give the proper thrills. One last freebe: It is rumored that meditation on which tires, which oil, and which chain lube, often leads to what some consider is a 'cultish' or even an addictive nature of the KLR. YMMV. and you have been warned.... revmaaatin. 4th straight set of K270's, and a full set on the shelf in reserve (cultish twitch-twitch).

[Michael Silverstein]

It wasn't until I wore down my K270s and put on a set of Pirelli Scorpion A/Ts in preparation for a trip to Deal's Gap/Tail of the Dragon that I learned how much fun a KLR could really be on back roads - even in the rain. K270s are versatile and long lasting but I'm sure that trip and all the others I've taken on the back roads of NC and Virginia wouldn't have been half as fun with the K270s. Mike A18 -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of revmaaatin Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 10:27 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Tires --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, "Jud Jones" wrote:

> > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro

ups.com, "scottbtorell" wrote:

> > > > Let's talk tires... > > > > Lookig for some opinions on various brands > > > > I do 80 street & 20 dirt > > > > I'll do country roads, side streets, a few highways but mostly > > everything under 70MPH > > > > I have 2300 miles on the 06KLR650 stockers and lovin the bike! > > > > A few guys are running 606's and they claim great dirt and good

street

> > as well. > > > > I'm in Texas near Houston so I need a good buy on some tires and > > mounting. > > > > Thanks for any help! > > > > If you want to save some money, are not a scratcher on the street,

and want a tire that

> delivers good mileage and decent offroad performance, the Kenda

k270 is what you want.,

> or else the Cheng Shin 858. These tires will both outlast their

more expensive

> competition. The D606 is the best tire in its class, but won't last

as long as the first two.

> You probably don't need quite that aggressive a tire. >

Just to build on what Judd is suggesting; You will only ride to the level/environment that your bike is properly equipped to ride in. If you do buy a tire that is more 50/50 (K270) rather than what some suggest as a 80/20, you will ride more confidently in those 20% situations, the more difficult situations, and in all likelihood, you will go looking for more gravel and fire roads. All that said, many believe the K270 is inadequate for wet roads--but I contend, that wet conditions require all of to pay an extreme attention to what we are doing, and never expect 'a-lot' from any motorcycle tire in wet conditions. On such days, a cage might be a better choice (if we have any prior planning/choice in the matter), if a chage is not an option, then slow down, way down.... All things considered, I would love to have a 2d KLR with 'great' street tires, and one with K270's. Some have gone so far as to buy a second set of wheels so that they can make that change and only have one bike. Our friend Jeff Saline has correctly suggested that using a tire like the K270 is its own self-regulating speed-control. We [on the k270 tire] ride faster in the gravel/fire road/prairie section lines, and a little slower in the SD Black Hills canyons, but still fast enough to give the proper thrills. One last freebe: It is rumored that meditation on which tires, which oil, and which chain lube, often leads to what some consider is a 'cultish' or even an addictive nature of the KLR. YMMV. and you have been warned.... revmaaatin. 4th straight set of K270's, and a full set on the shelf in reserve (cultish twitch-twitch). [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[E.L. Green]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "scottbtorell" wrote:

> I do 80 street & 20 dirt > > I'll do country roads, side streets, a few highways but mostly > everything under 70MPH

So you don't go "off road" as such?

> A few guys are running 606's and they claim great dirt and good street > as well.

D606 is great off-road. On the street, it's a pretty good dirt tire. (Sorry, I ride my KLR like a sport bike on the street, and it's entirely too squirmy at high lean angles). I've beem pleasantly surprised by the Continental TKC-80. It does a good job offroad, and a reasonable job on-road. Because the tread doesn't wrap around the side like on, say, an Avon Gripster, you can't lean quite as far, but until you reach its limits it is a stable and secure handler on the street. On the other hand, what makes it a secure handler on the street (the large tread blocks) also makes it less than ideal for grassy terrain, since the tread doesn't "bite" like the smaller blocks on something like a D606.

[Donald Dickerson]

Wow, someone in my neck of the woods! Well, when my stock Dunlops ran out, I went to IRC's. I'm running the IRC GP1's front and rear. I get them from www.americanmototire.com, and the price is good. I run mostly street (paved), dirt roads(non paved dirt, gravel, mud, sand...), my commute takes me from between Plantersville and Magnolia, to west Houston, and back, about 120 miles. So far, no complaints, except they're a bit noisy. This is my first set of IRC's, and they don't look like I will get the mileage I got from the stockers, but they cost less than half as much. Unless you are rich, or have found a good dealer (I haven't), learn how to change tires yourself. The difference in cost is enormous. If I had to buy tires from the dealer, and let them install them, I'd sell my bike. For what the dealer wants for 2 tires, and the mounting (and this is with the wheels off the bike!), I can almost put 4 tires on my Ford van. I hear the 606's are good off-road tires, I'm sure someone here can tell you more about price and performance. --- scottbtorell wrote:

> Let's talk tires... > > Lookig for some opinions on various brands > > I do 80 street & 20 dirt > > I'll do country roads, side streets, a few highways but mostly > everything under 70MPH > > I have 2300 miles on the 06KLR650 stockers and lovin the bike! > > A few guys are running 606's and they claim great dirt and good > street > as well. > > I'm in Texas near Houston so I need a good buy on some tires and > mounting. > > Thanks for any help! > >

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[Jacobus De Bruyn]

The options for rear tires seems a bit limited here, I downloaded all the info on the net abt tires for this bike, but it did not say much abt. the Pirelli MT21,120/90R17. Anybody knows abt. this tire? The Golden Boy and the Duro are not the kind of tire I will use. The Dunlop D606 seems great also, it is 130/90R17, but I suppose it is not in the country. This country is like living on an island, Gilligan pops up, everything has to come by ship from the industrialized nations. I see that many of you are mechanics, either professional or hobbieists, just love to fiddle with nuts and bolts, can t leave good alone. My experience, albeit very limited, is that if you don t enjoy being under it, instead of on top of it, get a new bike every seven or eight years, because buying parts and repairing can be more expensive in the long run. I don t know abt. Harley s and BMW s, but anything made in the Far East has a built-in expiration date, and then one thing after the other gives problems. But if you enjoy greasy fingernails, be my guest. Sure keeps your mind off sex. Is that good? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz

[Blake Sobiloff]

On Jun 7, 2007, at 10:52 AM, Jacobus De Bruyn wrote:

> I > downloaded all the info on the net abt tires for this > bike, but it did not say much abt. the Pirelli > MT21,120/90R17.

There are a few comments about this tire on Mike's tire page www.standoutnet.com/extras/mike/motorcy ... 650/tires/>. Make sure you search for "mt21" as there are comparisons to the MT21 in some of the other tire reviews as well.

> Anybody knows abt. this tire?

I had a pretty worn one on the rear of my bike when I first bought it. I wasn't too impressed with the level of grip on the street, especially in the rain, but I must admit it was a predictable slider so it didn't cause me too many problems. Never got a chance to try it off-pavement, though.

> My experience, albeit very limited, is that if you > don t enjoy being under it, instead of on top of it, > get a new bike every seven or eight years, because > buying parts and repairing can be more expensive in > the long run. I don t know abt. Harley s and BMW s, > but anything made in the Far East has a built-in > expiration date, and then one thing after the other > gives problems.

The KLR might change your mind about that--there are plenty of 8+ year-old bikes running quite happily with just regular maintenance. Now, the KLR might just be one of those exceptions to the rule... -- Blake Sobiloff http://sobiloff.typepad.com/blakeblog/> San Jose, CA (USA) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]