camping with jennifer.....nklr

[bryanonfire]

Since you are riding two-up, weight and space are going to be an issue. I take it you are from NE Pennsylvania? I used to live in Virginia, and here in AZ I normally go out with just a lightweight waterproof tarp and some parachute cord for shelter, because they pack so small. Here's the theory, and it works just fine east or west. You don't want to ride in the rain, so if it's going to rain hard, cancel your ride or stay in a hotel. If it isn't going to rain, or maybe just drizzel a bit, no need for a tent. Throw the tarp on the ground or make it into a lean-to. Roll out your mattress and kick back. If it is buggy, get out the net, those pack very small. REI.com carries a nice tarp in various sizes made by Outdoor Products. Don't be stunned by the price; they really are waterproof, last a long time, and pack very small. One of these, some cord, a mosquito net, and a couple of stakes will pack about a quarter of the size of a two person tent. I almost never use my tent; the tarp is so much lighter, versatile, and convenient. Use the KLR as one anchor point and a tree for the other. (Or two trees. Don't take a chance on the KLR falling on you if the ground is suspect!) You can add a mosquito net for bugs on the east coast. Since you have a companion, I'm recommending Wiggy's Desert bags, because they zip together into one big comfy bag (or work just fine alone.)Good down to about 50 degrees, and in a compression stuff sack they pack pretty small. You'll probably have to order directly from him. He's quirky; not many dealers carry the product. It's a great warm weather bag, though, durable, comfortable, and like I said... zip together. This assumes you are really camping, meaning out of sight of any other people and even lights. If you are in sight of people, you may as well just get a motel room. In my book, camping isn't camping if you can see a human light source within a couple miles. My saddlebags are from RoadGear. They have a lot of volume, the most I could find of any maker, and I only have a couple of complaints. Ask me off line for details if you are interested. I like a Thermarest combined with a Thermalounger, which makes a very comfy camp seat out of your sleeping pad. But you aren't going to get a great night's sleep on any known gear if you are riding with two people on the bike. Just not possible to carry enough luxuries. You could pack all this in the saddlebags I mentioned (except for the two T-rest/loungers, which would have to ride on the tail due to width) and still have room for some clothes, simple food, a titanium pot, and an alcohol stove. Leave a little room for a flask or something similar. With two people on a KLR you just can't carry enough stuff to spend a night in luxury. Bryan

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Charles" wrote: > > I am guessing that I am not the only person here on this list, with a KLR, that likes to camp. And, spring is upon us, with summer soon to follow. Well, I hope, anyway. > > I am looking at some "backpacking" tents, that would be bike-packable on the KLR. I am specifically looking for a 2-3 person (read 2 people and a small amount of gear) size. > > Naturally, I also need to carry other things, such as camp stoves, sleeping bag, food/drink, etc., so size/weight is an issue. >

[Craig Kahler]

I also used one of those $.99 air mattresses on a 3 day camping trip last year. Worked great and takes up no more room than a T-shirt. I still have it to use again this year. I'm considering buying a second one for back up, but than again, you know how cheap KLR riders can be. Maybe if they go on sale.   Craig Kahler

--- On [b]Mon, 3/22/10, Dooden [i][/i][/b] wrote:

From: Dooden Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Bike packable tents and camping gear To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, March 22, 2010, 11:06 PM   Wow.. I spent I think $.99 at Walmart for a inflatable air mattress in the swimming section, at the end of the weekend deflated and placed in a trash can. But that was a one time use. When my wife and I go camping, well I need my truck and trailer, but sure is nice to cots, extra tent to put things in, cooler, BBQ grill w/side burner for coffee and pan cooking, solar showers, propane tank with tree and light, propane griddle ect ect ect Dooden A15 Green Ape --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Kevin Powers wrote: > > The best bit of camping gear I've added of late has been an air pad ( > http://www.rei. com/category/ 40001452 ) > These are more comfortable than the thermarest pads and roll up to the size > of a nalgene bottle - the combination of increased comfort and smaller size > is a good thing. I've got an inexpensive waterproof duffel that my camping > gear goes in and gets strapped to the rack on the bike. > -- > Kevin Powers > White Bear Lake, MN > > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Bob K wrote: > > > > > > > > > We did a 4 state Western trip last year and camped about 2/3 of the days. I > > didn't want to wrap up alot of $$ in pricey gear so I decided to focus on > > small tents and camp pads along with a small sleeping bag. > > I bought a Coleman 2 person tent and a Coleman self inflating sleep pad. > > The Bag was a Dicks sporting goods 10 degree bag that rolled up real small. > > > > I was pleased with all of it and only had about $125 in all 3 > > These were all bought New. > > You really don't have to spend alot for these thing if you look hard. > > > > Bob 09 KLR > > 2007 FJR 1300 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- > > To: charlesf@... ; dsn_klr650@yahoogro ups.com > > From: bounder36@.. . > > Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:29:47 +0000 > > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Bike packable tents and camping gear > > > > > > > > Chuck, > > > > REI has a great selection of tents. > > > > Something else that really improves a night in the tent is a very small > > cot. Many manufactures are making them now, I've had one for 20 years and > > sleep as comfortably in the tent as I do at home. Of course I Also bring > > the pillow off my bed and a foam pad too. > > > > I'm ready to go camping too and shake this crappy cabin fever once and for > > all. > > > > Greg > > > > ------------ --------- --------- > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com > > From: charlesf@... > > Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:07:58 -0400 > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Bike packable tents and camping gear > > > > > > I am guessing that I am not the only person here on this list, with a > > KLR, that likes to camp. And, spring is upon us, with summer soon to > > follow. Well, I hope, anyway. > > > > I am looking at some "backpacking" tents, that would be bike-packable on > > the KLR. I am specifically looking for a 2-3 person (read 2 people and a > > small amount of gear) size. > > > > Naturally, I also need to carry other things, such as camp stoves, sleeping > > bag, food/drink, etc., so size/weight is an issue. > > > > I'm sort of planning my "kit" now, and I was wondering if anyone had > > suggestions. ..... perhaps examples of the gear they use, or even photos of > > how you packed your bike. > > > > I have a 2009, so the rack is a bit larger than the older versions. I have > > the factory tail bag, but I am also considering options specifically for > > camping; also, I will have my wife with me, so I can't use that seat > > space..... > > > > Thanks in advance for suggestions, etc. > > Chuck F. > > NE PA > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- > > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. Sign up > > now. http://clk.atdmt. com/GBL/go/ 210850552/ direct/01/> > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- > > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. Sign up > > now. http://clk.atdmt. com/GBL/go/ 210850552/ direct/01/> > > > > >

[Jim Douglas]

OMG, $150.00 for an air mattress. It would have to be in the shape of Anna Nichole for me to spend that cash on that. I purchased a tent a Walmart for $9.99 and it worked find for the little bit of tenting I do. It's also super small when in it's container.

> > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > , Kevin Powers > wrote: > > > > The best bit of camping gear I've added of late has been an air pad ( > > http://www.rei.com/category/40001452 > http://www.rei.com/category/40001452> ) > > These are more comfortable than the thermarest pads and roll up to > the size > > of a nalgene bottle - the combination of increased comfort and > smaller size > > is a good thing. I've got an inexpensive waterproof duffel that my > camping > > gear goes in and gets strapped to the rack on the bike. > > -- > > Kevin Powers > > White Bear Lake, MN > > > > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Bob K wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We did a 4 state Western trip last year and camped about 2/3 of > the days. I > > > didn't want to wrap up alot of $$ in pricey gear so I decided to > focus on > > > small tents and camp pads along with a small sleeping bag. > > > I bought a Coleman 2 person tent and a Coleman self inflating > sleep pad. > > > The Bag was a Dicks sporting goods 10 degree bag that rolled up > real small. > > > > > > I was pleased with all of it and only had about $125 in all 3 > > > These were all bought New. > > > You really don't have to spend alot for these thing if you look hard. > > > > > > Bob 09 KLR > > > 2007 FJR 1300 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > To: charlesf@...; dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com > > > > From: bounder36@... > > > Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:29:47 +0000 > > > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Bike packable tents and camping gear > > > > > > > > > > > > Chuck, > > > > > > REI has a great selection of tents. > > > > > > Something else that really improves a night in the tent is a very > small > > > cot. Many manufactures are making them now, I've had one for 20 > years and > > > sleep as comfortably in the tent as I do at home. Of course I Also > bring > > > the pillow off my bed and a foam pad too. > > > > > > I'm ready to go camping too and shake this crappy cabin fever once > and for > > > all. > > > > > > Greg > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > > From: charlesf@... > > > Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:07:58 -0400 > > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Bike packable tents and camping gear > > > > > > > > > I am guessing that I am not the only person here on this list, with a > > > KLR, that likes to camp. And, spring is upon us, with summer soon to > > > follow. Well, I hope, anyway. > > > > > > I am looking at some "backpacking" tents, that would be > bike-packable on > > > the KLR. I am specifically looking for a 2-3 person (read 2 people > and a > > > small amount of gear) size. > > > > > > Naturally, I also need to carry other things, such as camp stoves, > sleeping > > > bag, food/drink, etc., so size/weight is an issue. > > > > > > I'm sort of planning my "kit" now, and I was wondering if anyone had > > > suggestions...... perhaps examples of the gear they use, or even > photos of > > > how you packed your bike. > > > > > > I have a 2009, so the rack is a bit larger than the older > versions. I have > > > the factory tail bag, but I am also considering options > specifically for > > > camping; also, I will have my wife with me, so I can't use that seat > > > space..... > > > > > > Thanks in advance for suggestions, etc. > > > Chuck F. > > > NE PA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. > Sign up > > > now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/ > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/>> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. > Sign up > > > now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/ > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/>> > > > > > > > > > >

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[Thor Lancelot Simon]

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 04:03:03AM -0000, bryanonfire wrote:

> Since you are riding two-up, weight and space are going to be an > issue. I take it you are from NE Pennsylvania? I used to live in > Virginia, and here in AZ I normally go out with just a lightweight > waterproof tarp and some parachute cord for shelter, because they pack > so small.

What kind of tarp is lighter/smaller than a 2-person backpacking tent? Thor

[skypilot110]

Chuck, step 1 Go to big box mart and buy a cheapo 3 person tent. step 2 use it several times step 3 If you find you need more then you will have figured out what you need in a tent and can go shop for one that fits your needs. Point is that you should not spend hundreds of dollars on a tent without knowing what it is that works for you specificaly. The cheapo one will work fine while you figure that out. All of us are different and have different priorities and plans. I use a 2 person EMS Eclipse for solo and a 3 person if anybody else is coming along or I need a base camp. You may find the 2 person is too small or big... As far as how to pack it I am reasonably anal about that and have written it all down to keep it straight in my head. http://www.ginsucity.com/klr650-packing

> > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > From: charlesf@... > Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:07:58 -0400 > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Bike packable tents and camping gear > > I am guessing that I am not the only person here on this list, with a KLR, that likes to camp. And, spring is upon us, with summer soon to follow. Well, I hope, anyway. > > I am looking at some "backpacking" tents, that would be bike-packable on the KLR. I am specifically looking for a 2-3 person (read 2 people and a small amount of gear) size. >

[skypilot110]

Other important points to consider The Sleeping bag and pad are as important, if not more so, than the tent. Dont get an air pad or foam pad that will hold water. You can pack a foam one out side of the panniers if you have a shamwow to wipe it off so it is dry. If it has cloth on it then you cant dry it if it gets wet and wet happens in most of the country more often than we like. If your tent has a leaky floor an absorbant airpad cover will soak up water so the tent and pad should both be considered together with the conditions of intended use. The tent is just a place to put all of it but you need to put it up and down fast and it needs to survive in the vibrating packed condition as well as when up and in a wind storm. How you pack it is probably as important as what one you buy. Figure the packig bit out carefully before you head out. If you get the expensive tent and wear 30 holes in it by not packing it safely or by dumping the bike into some brush then you've binned all your money. Learn to pack it with a cheap tent to be safe. What ever tent you buy put it up and pack it several times in your living room before you hit the road. Next turn off the lights and do it. You want to know how to do it in the dark before you set off since stuff happens and sometimes you arrive late. Trying to pull out the instructions to read and setting up your tent for the first time in a rain storm at night is not going to make for an enjoyable ride. I can have my tent up in 5 minutes with the inside and pad wiped down with the shamwow I leave in the tent. It took 25 minutes the first time I opened it and I didnt figure out the shamwow trick until I spent a soggy night in the Adirondacks.

> To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > From: charlesf@... > Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:07:58 -0400 > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Bike packable tents and camping gear > > > I am guessing that I am not the only person here on this list, with a KLR, that likes to camp. And, spring is upon us, with summer soon to follow. Well, I hope, anyway. > > I am looking at some "backpacking" tents, that would be bike-packable on the KLR. I am specifically looking for a 2-3 person (read 2 people and a small amount of gear) size. >

[RobertWichert]

Excellent! Thanks to all for the hints. Robert P. Wichert P.Eng +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ========================================================

On 3/22/2010 7:09 PM, Jeff Saline wrote: > Robert, > > Check the outlet to see if they have any at a discount. I don't think I > paid more than $130 for my tent. > > http://www.eurekatent.com/p-64-pinnacle-pass-3xta-tent.aspx > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:43:35 -0700 RobertWichert > writes: > >> Can you provide a link to somebody selling these 3XTA tents, please? >> >> >> Robert P. Wichert P.Eng >> +1 916 966 9060 >> FAX +1 916 966 9068 >> >> >> > ____________________________________________________________ > Love Spell > Click here to light up your life with a love spell! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=loQZEKOzenaF7rDRWO3mkQAAJ1Aw_R0V5hDS3zvOQEWqtQkDAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARwAAAAA= > > >

[Scott Reitor]

Cuhck, The advice on getting a cheapo tent is spot on. I have been camping for over 3 decades and have changed tents a few times. I have different tents for different types of weather, modes of travel, length of stay, etc. Buy a cheap one and figure out where you want to go from there. The sleeping bag is the exact opposite. The right sleeping bag will last you a lifetime and be usable in a -20-70 degree temperature range. I highly suggest you check out the US Army sleep system at a surplus store. This sleeping bag set has three pieces, a lightweight inner bag, a heavier weight outer bag, and a moisture proof cover or bivy sack. I have camped in a ditch under the stars in 60% humidity at 17 degrees and been warm with all three layers. I have likewise slept on a cot in a tent with just the inner bag at 70 degrees and been comfortable. Scott

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 8:30 AM, skypilot110 wrote: Chuck, step 1 Go to big box mart and buy a cheapo 3 person tent. step 2 use it several times step 3 If you find you need more then you will have figured out what you need in a tent and can go shop for one that fits your needs. Point is that you should not spend hundreds of dollars on a tent without knowing what it is that works for you specificaly. The cheapo one will work fine while you figure that out. All of us are different and have different priorities and plans. I use a 2 person EMS Eclipse for solo and a 3 person if anybody else is coming along or I need a base camp. You may find the 2 person is too small or big... As far as how to pack it I am reasonably anal about that and have written it all down to keep it straight in my head. http://www.ginsucity.com/klr650-packing

[Fred Hink]

I use a Paco Grande pad and can recommend them if you are wanting the absolute best in a rugged comfortable sleeping pad. http://www.jpwinc.com/index.php?page=photo&photo_category=PACO+PADS The Grande might be too large for KLR Kamping but for most anything else, you can't beat them.  You need to be setting down when you see the price.  But what is a good night's sleep worth when you are miles from home? Fred www.arrowheadmotorsports.com     [b]From:[/b] chris.eckert@... [b]Sent:[/b] Tuesday, March 23, 2010 6:46 AM [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Re: Bike packable tents and camping gear   Other important points to consider The Sleeping bag and pad are as important, if not more so, than the tent. Dont get an air pad or foam pad that will hold water. You can pack a foam one out side of the panniers if you have a shamwow to wipe it off so it is dry. If it has cloth on it then you cant dry it if it gets wet and wet happens in most of the country more often than we like. If your tent has a leaky floor an absorbant airpad cover will soak up water so the tent and pad should both be considered together with the conditions of intended use. The tent is just a place to put all of it but you need to put it up and down fast and it needs to survive in the vibrating packed condition as well as when up and in a wind storm. How you pack it is probably as important as what one you buy. Figure the packig bit out carefully before you head out. If you get the expensive tent and wear 30 holes in it by not packing it safely or by dumping the bike into some brush then you've binned all your money. Learn to pack it with a cheap tent to be safe. What ever tent you buy put it up and pack it several times in your living room before you hit the road. Next turn off the lights and do it. You want to know how to do it in the dark before you set off since stuff happens and sometimes you arrive late. Trying to pull out the instructions to read and setting up your tent for the first time in a rain storm at night is not going to make for an enjoyable ride. I can have my tent up in 5 minutes with the inside and pad wiped down with the shamwow I leave in the tent. It took 25 minutes the first time I opened it and I didnt figure out the shamwow trick until I spent a soggy night in the Adirondacks.

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From: charlesf@...

> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:07:58 -0400 >

Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Bike packable tents and camping gear

> > > I am guessing that I am not the only person here on this list, with a

KLR, that likes to camp. And, spring is upon us, with summer soon to follow. Well, I hope, anyway.

> > I am looking at some "backpacking"

tents, that would be bike-packable on the KLR. I am specifically looking for a 2-3 person (read 2 people and a small amount of gear) size.

>

[Bogdan Swider]

Re: [DSN_KLR650] Bike packable tents and camping gear It was interesting to read he suggestions posted so far. For a two person tent with a small vestibule I still haven't found a better choice then the Sierra Designs Clip Flashlight. It’s lighter and more compact than just about any other option. At about $200 it isn’t too expensive. It isn’t free standing but that hasn’t been a problem and I’ve camped at a wide variety of terrain, more often rocky than not. Lots of people sell them; here’s one with a picture: http://www.amazon.com/Sierra-Designs-Flashlight-Two-Person-Ultralight/dp/B001LNNIOK For a one person option I own the ultimate, the Envirogear Cocoon 4. It’s a combination 4 season sleeping bag, air mattress and tent. Works in hot weather or below zero. You adjust the temperature by adding air or deflating. You can sleep on a surface of rocks and still be comfortable. Trouble is it was a one man operation and that one guy was a creative designer but not a business man. Thus...he’ out of business. Anyone know what happened to him ? Charles, whatever you decide to buy make sure you have large tank panniers and a roomy tank bag. I go with Aerostich for the panniers and the Wolfman tank bag is the best I’ve owned. If you don’t pack much of your heavy stuff up front the light klr will handle horribly. You may not have to do that with your Harley CVO. Bogdan

On 3/22/10 2:07 PM, "Charles" charlesf@...> wrote:

        I am guessing that I am not the only person here on this list, with a KLR, that likes to camp.  And, spring is upon us, with summer soon to follow.  Well, I hope, anyway.  :-)   I am looking at some "backpacking" tents, that would be bike-packable on the KLR.  I am specifically looking for a 2-3 person (read 2 people and a small amount of gear) size.   Naturally, I also need to carry other things, such as camp stoves, sleeping bag, food/drink, etc., so size/weight is an issue.   I'm sort of planning my "kit" now, and I was wondering if anyone had suggestions......  perhaps examples of the gear they use, or even photos of how you packed your bike.   I have a 2009, so the rack is a bit larger than the older versions.  I have the factory tail bag, but I am also considering options specifically for camping;  also, I will have my wife with me, so I can't use that seat space.....   Thanks in advance for suggestions, etc. Chuck F. NE PA         No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2762 - Release Date: 03/21/10 15:33:00