missing oil filter parts?

[roncriswell@sbcglobal.net]

Yeah I still sadly laugh at grizzly man when it comes on. Not to sound uncaring and harsh at his tragic death......but.....ah....I love the videos and movies grizzly man made while living with the bears....but really....how stupid are you to really think you can live with grizzly bears or really any other completely wild large carnivore? Grizzly man is / was highly entertaining and you have to sort of admire his goofy  quirky ability to sorta co-exist with these bears for quite a while....but in the end, they are wild. Like all animals other than pets, they spend their whole life seeking food, and if you are available and easy, guess what? But back to KLR's. A friend I rode with some in the Moab area was....a risk taker, ...........er we all are if we ride bikes, some more than others. He went riding off by himself one day, stopped to take a photo waaay out there. Pushed the start button and nada, dead battery. He luckily was on a hill and rolled down starting the bike. Lucky .....like most of us sometime. I have pushed started my beast a couple of times when i left the key on, but not out in the middle of nowhere on loose gravel. Criswell 

On Jan 22, 2010, at 12:33 PM, Jeff Khoury wrote:   I don't think I've ever read about someone going off as ill-prepared as that.  It is only blind chance that he's still alive.  He was definitely riding above his ability. He rode some of the toughest routes in Baja ALONE with a bike that he KNEW to be failing before he left, he didn't carry enough water in case of  getting stranded, didn't even take purification tablets for scavenged water.  What a moron! (and I don't publicly deride people very often.) There's a fine line between hardcore and idiocy.  He seriously reminds me of the guy who went alone to Alaska to film bears, only to end up being bear poop.  This is what happens when you think you're superman. -Jeff Khoury ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Powers" gmail.com> Cc: "DSN KLR650" ups.com> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 9:26:03 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Last Ditch Start Attempt   I took a look at that ride report.  That gentleman serves as an excellent example of how not to do things.  We may read about him in the Darwin Awards some day. -- Kevin Powers White Bear Lake, MN On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 4:22 PM, revmaaatin wrote:   Hello List-- Reading a RR over on ADV and found this little tidbit that would be useful knowledge for use on the KLR650. This rider RR had a failed kick starter spline on his Honda 600 and another rider/reader of the ADV offered this bit of advice. Although the kick starter part is not germane, it would be the same if we had a dead battery. I have been with a KLR/dead battery scenario and you are sucking wind to get it started on the 'flat'. HTH. revmaaatin. LINK: http://www.advrider .com/forums/ showthread. php?t=447606&page=8 LINK TEXT/COMMENT: Fantastic story! Probably too late to be of any good, but for those times when you are stuck at the bottom of a hill with a broke kick starter, I've seen folks fire a bike up by putting it in top gear and propping it up so the rear wheel is off the ground, then manually spinning the rear wheel - sorta like hand-propping an airplane....

[mark ward]

I have bump started My 1100 cruiser more then a few times. Put it in 2nd. (learned the hard way NOT 1st.) and you ether have to jump on or have some ne push while you are on to have pressure on the rear, or its like hitting the brake. [b]From:[/b] RobertWichert [b]Cc:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Fri, January 22, 2010 6:19:34 PM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Last Ditch Start Attempt   I used to bump start my old two-stroke triple all the time.  In second.  The "trick" was letting out the clutch precisely when my butt hit the seat.  I saw road racers doing it all the time in the movies, so I figured it was no big deal.  It worked on that bike, but I expect the 650 single to be a whole lot harder. Robert P. Wichert P.Eng +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068  ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========

On 1/22/2010 11:32 AM, Jud wrote:  

I just looked at enough to get the gist. It looks like he's riding a DR650. I have yet to find the gear in which to bump start my DR. I have not tried 5th yet, but 1 through 4 just leave skid marks on the pavement. --- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, Kevin Powers wrote: > > I took a look at that ride report. That gentleman serves as an excellent > example of how not to do things. We may read about him in the Darwin Awards > some day. > > -- > Kevin Powers > White Bear Lake, MN > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 4:22 PM, revmaaatin mjearl@... wrote: > > > > > > > Hello List-- > > > > Reading a RR over on ADV and found this little tidbit that would be useful > > knowledge for use on the KLR650. This rider RR had a failed kick starter > > spline on his Honda 600 and another rider/reader of the ADV offered this bit > > of advice. Although the kick starter part is not germane, it would be the > > same if we had a dead battery. I have been with a KLR/dead battery scenario > > and you are sucking wind to get it started on the 'flat'. HTH. revmaaatin. > > > > LINK: > > http://www.advrider .com/forums/ showthread. php?t=447606& page=8 > > > > LINK TEXT/COMMENT: > > Fantastic story! Probably too late to be of any good, but for those times > > when you are stuck at the bottom of a hill with a broke kick starter, I've > > seen folks fire a bike up by putting it in top gear and propping it up so > > the rear wheel is off the ground, then manually spinning the rear wheel - > > sorta like hand-propping an airplane.... > > > > > > >

[revmaaatin]

Well boys, I too have bump started my other bikes, but never needed to bump the KLR. I even teach the kids if the bike stalls/spills on a hill (off road) to get off, drag it around--point the bike down hill, and bump start it going down hill (rather than trying to kick start the bike pointed up hill and stall the bike again. Most likely the Honda is flooded and rarely starts easily after being on the ground. We practice this point by making them them lay their bike down while going up a hill/trail, and practice the maneuver by themselves. After one demonstration, they usually get it down pat on the 2d try. It also reinforces the need to ride at least in pairs--it is much easier for a 10-14 year old to do that together than doing it all by themselves. Maybe my memory is not-so-good about bump starting the KLR. I was a pusher and not the rider. shurg. I remember, it was hot, I was hot, and WalMart could not come fast enough to replace that battery. I know we pushed and it took more than one attempt as the wheel locked up. Maybe it was not 4th??? but I didn't think it was as low as second. Will have to give this a try when the snow melts. From my 1700 mile KLR250 ride last summer, I KNOW they will not bump start, cough, or (kick start) if the kill switch is pointed to OFF. You can take that to the bank. Yeah, ask me how I know.... revmaaatin.

[albatrossklr]

ah the memories this string conjures..........bump starting a '53 R25 on Trudeau with sweat pouring off like a waterfall For the KLR I prefer 3rd gear & help pushing albatross thinking of days past and times gone by

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote: > > Well boys, > I too have bump started my other bikes, but never needed to bump the KLR. I even teach the kids if the bike stalls/spills on a hill (off road) to get off, drag it around--point the bike down hill, and bump start it going down hill (rather than trying to kick start the bike pointed up hill and stall the bike again. Most likely the Honda is flooded and rarely starts easily after being on the ground. We practice this point by making them them lay their bike down while going up a hill/trail, and practice the maneuver by themselves. After one demonstration, they usually get it down pat on the 2d try. It also reinforces the need to ride at least in pairs--it is much easier for a 10-14 year old to do that together than doing it all by themselves. > > Maybe my memory is not-so-good about bump starting the KLR. I was a pusher and not the rider. shurg. I remember, it was hot, I was hot, and WalMart could not come fast enough to replace that battery. > I know we pushed and it took more than one attempt as the wheel locked up. Maybe it was not 4th??? but I didn't think it was as low as second. Will have to give this a try when the snow melts. > > > From my 1700 mile KLR250 ride last summer, I KNOW they will not bump start, cough, or (kick start) if the kill switch is pointed to OFF. > You can take that to the bank. Yeah, ask me how I know.... > > revmaaatin. >

[dooden]

As with most bikes trick is letting the clutch out while your butt is bouncing down onto the seat. 2nd gear should be fine, of course depends on location and terrain, but run with bike, jump up on peg, leg over and drop butt onto seat let out clutch out. Of course running with a KLR is not something that is easy. Dooden A15 Green Ape

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "albatrossklr" wrote: > > ah the memories this string conjures..........bump starting a '53 R25 on Trudeau with sweat pouring off like a waterfall > > For the KLR I prefer 3rd gear & help pushing > > albatross > thinking of days past and times gone by > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote: > > > > Well boys, > > I too have bump started my other bikes, but never needed to bump the KLR. I even teach the kids if the bike stalls/spills on a hill (off road) to get off, drag it around--point the bike down hill, and bump start it going down hill (rather than trying to kick start the bike pointed up hill and stall the bike again. Most likely the Honda is flooded and rarely starts easily after being on the ground. We practice this point by making them them lay their bike down while going up a hill/trail, and practice the maneuver by themselves. After one demonstration, they usually get it down pat on the 2d try. It also reinforces the need to ride at least in pairs--it is much easier for a 10-14 year old to do that together than doing it all by themselves. > > > > Maybe my memory is not-so-good about bump starting the KLR. I was a pusher and not the rider. shurg. I remember, it was hot, I was hot, and WalMart could not come fast enough to replace that battery. > > I know we pushed and it took more than one attempt as the wheel locked up. Maybe it was not 4th??? but I didn't think it was as low as second. Will have to give this a try when the snow melts. > > > > > > From my 1700 mile KLR250 ride last summer, I KNOW they will not bump start, cough, or (kick start) if the kill switch is pointed to OFF. > > You can take that to the bank. Yeah, ask me how I know.... > > > > revmaaatin. > > >

[RobertWichert]

On 1/22/2010 10:26 PM, revmaaatin wrote: > >From my 1700 mile KLR250 ride last summer, I KNOW they will not bump start, cough, or (kick start) if the kill switch is pointed to OFF. > You can take that to the bank. Yeah, ask me how I know.... > > revmaaatin. Oh yeah.  People are wondering what kind of bike trouble I have to be pushing it, and, well, it isn't the bike at all! Kickstands too? Robert P. Wichert P.Eng +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ======================================================== On 1/22/2010 10:26 PM, revmaaatin wrote:   Well boys, I too have bump started my other bikes, but never needed to bump the KLR. I even teach the kids if the bike stalls/spills on a hill (off road) to get off, drag it around--point the bike down hill, and bump start it going down hill (rather than trying to kick start the bike pointed up hill and stall the bike again. Most likely the Honda is flooded and rarely starts easily after being on the ground. We practice this point by making them them lay their bike down while going up a hill/trail, and practice the maneuver by themselves. After one demonstration, they usually get it down pat on the 2d try. It also reinforces the need to ride at least in pairs--it is much easier for a 10-14 year old to do that together than doing it all by themselves. Maybe my memory is not-so-good about bump starting the KLR. I was a pusher and not the rider. shurg. I remember, it was hot, I was hot, and WalMart could not come fast enough to replace that battery. I know we pushed and it took more than one attempt as the wheel locked up. Maybe it was not 4th??? but I didn't think it was as low as second. Will have to give this a try when the snow melts. >From my 1700 mile KLR250 ride last summer, I KNOW they will not bump start, cough, or (kick start) if the kill switch is pointed to OFF. You can take that to the bank. Yeah, ask me how I know.... revmaaatin.

[mark ward]

I don't Know WHO! would make THAT mistake,....... more then 6-7-8 times[img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=http%3A%2F%2 ... hqggaA--~E[/img].  also check kick stand switch.[img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=http%3A%2F%2 ... oHT0cA--~E[/img]   A "RIDEmotorcycle.com" club member had starter trouble on a long trip one year, the NEXT year 200 miles from home Thought HAD it again, The SAME problem. called AAA, but BEFORE loading the Bike found OOP'S  KILL SWITCH OFF! ALWAYS start with the FREE basics EVEN when you THINK naa that SHOULD be ok.  [b]From:[/b] RobertWichert [b]To:[/b] revmaaatin [b]Cc:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Sat, January 23, 2010 11:33:40 AM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Last Ditch Start Attempt  

On 1/22/2010 10:26 PM, revmaaatin wrote: > >From my 1700 mile KLR250 ride last summer, I KNOW they will not bump start, cough, or (kick start) if the kill switch is pointed to OFF. > You can take that to the bank. Yeah, ask me how I know.... > > revmaaatin. Oh yeah.  People are wondering what kind of bike trouble I have to be pushing it, and, well, it isn't the bike at all! Kickstands too? Robert P. Wichert P.Eng +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ======== On 1/22/2010 10:26 PM, revmaaatin wrote:  

Well boys, I too have bump started my other bikes, but never needed to bump the KLR. I even teach the kids if the bike stalls/spills on a hill (off road) to get off, drag it around--point the bike down hill, and bump start it going down hill (rather than trying to kick start the bike pointed up hill and stall the bike again. Most likely the Honda is flooded and rarely starts easily after being on the ground. We practice this point by making them them lay their bike down while going up a hill/trail, and practice the maneuver by themselves. After one demonstration, they usually get it down pat on the 2d try. It also reinforces the need to ride at least in pairs--it is much easier for a 10-14 year old to do that together than doing it all by themselves. Maybe my memory is not-so-good about bump starting the KLR. I was a pusher and not the rider. shurg. I remember, it was hot, I was hot, and WalMart could not come fast enough to replace that battery. I know we pushed and it took more than one attempt as the wheel locked up. Maybe it was not 4th??? but I didn't think it was as low as second. Will have to give this a try when the snow melts. >From my 1700 mile KLR250 ride last summer, I KNOW they will not bump start, cough, or (kick start) if the kill switch is pointed to OFF. You can take that to the bank. Yeah, ask me how I know.... revmaaatin.

[Thomas Komjathy]

It's part of the bypass tube. TK [b]From:[/b] David [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Sat, January 23, 2010 6:31:30 PM [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Missing oil filter parts?   I hope someone can help me here. When I changed the oil on my new-to-me 2006 KLR I thought it strange that the filter was the only part in the bike. It looked like something was missing and of course, after some searching on the parts fiche here - http://www.kawasaki partshouse. net/pages/ parts/viewbybran d/9/Kawasaki. aspx - I saw that the filter bypass tube was missing. I then ordered the tube from Arrowhead (super fast service by the way). So here's the question: the parts fiche also shows a "collar" p/n 92027-1695. Is this something that could also be missing or could be thrown out along with the bypass tube? If so, where does this part go? Thanks!

[Jim Tegler]

KLRista, You are right on Mr. Green Ape. I've bumped a few bikes and the real trick is pushing the bike to a decent 6-10 mph (preferably by rolling down a hill) and then bouncing onto the seat and engaging the clutch in 2nd gear simultaneously. Easy with a warm engine. Can be tricky if it's cold. I used to do this with a 400-Four for a couple of months waiting for a part and have since done the KLR a few times. On another note, great skiing in the Yukon this time of year - lousy biking. A5 Jim Posted by: "Dooden" Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:20 am (PST) As with most bikes trick is letting the clutch out while your butt is bouncing down onto the seat. 2nd gear should be fine, of course depends on location and terrain, but run with bike, jump up on peg, leg over and drop butt onto seat let out clutch out. Of course running with a KLR is not something that is easy. Dooden A15 Green Ape _________________________________________________________________ Say Happy New Year with Messenger for Mobile. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9706117

[Chris Long]

I didn't worry about jumping on the seat until after it was started. I did first gear running alongside the bike, engage the clutch, bike starts, pull clutch back in, come to a stop, get back on the bike and ride away. Only tried with a warm bike so far. I imagine it would be more difficult on a cold one. I didn't have to do it because of a problem with the KLR either. A BMW 650 in our group ran out of gas, then killed off the battery. We got gas for it, but then it wouldn't start. It had fuel injection, so you can't push start it. (although we didn't try) I switched out batteries with mine and we were on our way. Chris

On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Jim Tegler wrote: KLRista, You are right on Mr. Green Ape. I've bumped a few bikes and the real trick is pushing the bike to a decent 6-10 mph (preferably by rolling down a hill) and then bouncing onto the seat and engaging the clutch in 2nd gear simultaneously. Easy with a warm engine. Can be tricky if it's cold. I used to do this with a 400-Four for a couple of months waiting for a part and have since done the KLR a few times. On another note, great skiing in the Yukon this time of year - lousy biking. A5 Jim Posted by: "Dooden" Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:20 am (PST) As with most bikes trick is letting the clutch out while your butt is bouncing down onto the seat. 2nd gear should be fine, of course depends on location and terrain, but run with bike, jump up on peg, leg over and drop butt onto seat let out clutch out. Of course running with a KLR is not something that is easy. Dooden A15 Green Ape __________________________________________________________ Say Happy New Year with Messenger for Mobile. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9706117

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