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[Doug Herr]

On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 09:24 -0700, Rick McCauley wrote:

> So, I assume we want to let pressure out of the crankcase, but not back in? > Doesn't that create a vacuum under the piston on it's way up?

That would be my assumption, and that would make sense as a way of reducing the oil consumption. But that would also seem to *lower* the power by just that tiny bit, due to the vacuum trying to hold back the piston movement. So, exactly how is it that people are figuring that this mod increases power? -- Doug Herr doug@...

[Jeff Saline]

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 06:28:34 -0700 Doug Herr writes: SNIP

> So, exactly how is it that people are figuring that this mod increases

power?

> > -- > Doug Herr > doug@...

<><><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><><> Doug, I'm gonna guess that almost everyone that talks about power on the KLR is using a butt dyno. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT . ____________________________________________________________ House Rescue Bill Passed $133,000 mortgage under $679/mo. Compare rates and save! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=7uk3kAJk6tbdH85gmmq1HAAAJ1DWfJIDP-R0_NC3mMpGFS0kAAQAAAAFAAAAAPTwTz8AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaTcQAAAAA=

[Rick McCauley]

I think many people imagine a HP increase after a mod is done. Like glass packs on your car. Sounds louder, so it must be faster. In reality glass packs resricted flow, even though they were straight thru. The internal fins caused flow restricting turbulence. I think we all would like a little more oomph from the KLR, but in reality, it isn't there, without things like a hotter cams, bigger piston, higher compression etc. Even then it is still a 650 single. It's long life potetial makes up for its power shortage in my opinion. And when you think about it, the KLR is just as fast as all but the fastest of cars. It just isn't fast for a motorcycle. Rick A17 ________________________________ From: Jeff Saline To: doug@... Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, October 22, 2009 8:33:03 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Oil Consumption 2009 KLR **CORRECTION** On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 06:28:34 -0700 Doug Herr writes: SNIP

> So, exactly how is it that people are figuring that this mod increases

power?

> > -- > Doug Herr > doug@wombatz. com

<><><><><><> <><><> <><><><><><> <><><> Doug, I'm gonna guess that almost everyone that talks about power on the KLR is using a butt dyno. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads. org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT . ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ House Rescue Bill Passed $133,000 mortgage under $679/mo. Compare rates and save! http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ c?cp=7uk3kAJk6tb dH85gmmq1HAAAJ1D WfJIDP-R0_ NC3mMpGFS0kAAQAA AAFAAAAAPTwTz8AA AMlAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAaTcQAAAAA= [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Thomas Komjathy]

Rick Excellent comparative statement about the KLR being as fast as most cars,particularly when most people would love to have that type of performance from their car. The KLR, as most have stated, does many things well, making it one of the most versatile and affordable bikes on the planet. I have had my KLR on the track at Barber and othe then the main straight, I was doing just as well and in some cases passing some in the coners. Point being, in the right hands of a trained person, this bike will perform very well. As a 15 year MSF, rider educator, I can qualitatively say the KLR is one of the best bikes there is to teach a person some of the finer riding skills. One of those is; relaxing while riding the KLR, because anyone that has significant miles on one can tell you, it doesn't like a tense rider. There's others, but I can say, this is a fantastic bike. Then add supportive lists like this one and that is the icing on the cake. TK ________________________________ From: Rick McCauley To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, October 22, 2009 10:24:31 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Oil Consumption 2009 KLR **CORRECTION** I think many people imagine a HP increase after a mod is done. Like glass packs on your car. Sounds louder, so it must be faster. In reality glass packs resricted flow, even though they were straight thru. The internal fins caused flow restricting turbulence. I think we all would like a little more oomph from the KLR, but in reality, it isn't there, without things like a hotter cams, bigger piston, higher compression etc. Even then it is still a 650 single. It's long life potetial makes up for its power shortage in my opinion. And when you think about it, the KLR is just as fast as all but the fastest of cars. It just isn't fast for a motorcycle. Rick A17 ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Jeff Saline To: doug@wombatz. com Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thu, October 22, 2009 8:33:03 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Oil Consumption 2009 KLR **CORRECTION* * On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 06:28:34 -0700 Doug Herr writes: SNIP

> So, exactly how is it that people are figuring that this mod increases

power?

> > -- > Doug Herr > doug@wombatz. com

<><><><><><> <><><> <><><><><><> <><><> Doug, I'm gonna guess that almost everyone that talks about power on the KLR is using a butt dyno. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads. org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT . ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ House Rescue Bill Passed $133,000 mortgage under $679/mo. Compare rates and save! http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ c?cp=7uk3kAJk6tb dH85gmmq1HAAAJ1D WfJIDP-R0_ NC3mMpGFS0kAAQAA AAFAAAAAPTwTz8AA AMlAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAaTcQAAAAA= [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Rick McCauley]

I took the MSF class several years ago. Highly recommend it. I still have the T-shirt. Too bad it doesn't fit anymore Rick A17 ________________________________ From: Thomas Komjathy To: Rick McCauley Sent: Thu, October 22, 2009 9:44:16 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Oil Consumption 2009 KLR **CORRECTION** Rick Excellent comparative statement about the KLR being as fast as most cars,particularly when most people would love to have that type of performance from their car. The KLR, as most have stated, does many things well, making it one of the most versatile and affordable bikes on the planet. I have had my KLR on the track at Barber and othe then the main straight, I was doing just as well and in some cases passing some in the coners. Point being, in the right hands of a trained person, this bike will perform very well. As a 15 year MSF, rider educator, I can qualitatively say the KLR is one of the best bikes there is to teach a person some of the finer riding skills. One of those is; relaxing while riding the KLR, because anyone that has significant miles on one can tell you, it doesn't like a tense rider. There's others, but I can say, this is a fantastic bike. Then add supportive lists like this one and that is the icing on the cake. TK ________________________________ From: Rick McCauley To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, October 22, 2009 10:24:31 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Oil Consumption 2009 KLR **CORRECTION** I think many people imagine a HP increase after a mod is done. Like glass packs on your car. Sounds louder, so it must be faster. In reality glass packs resricted flow, even though they were straight thru. The internal fins caused flow restricting turbulence. I think we all would like a little more oomph from the KLR, but in reality, it isn't there, without things like a hotter cams, bigger piston, higher compression etc. Even then it is still a 650 single. It's long life potetial makes up for its power shortage in my opinion. And when you think about it, the KLR is just as fast as all but the fastest of cars. It just isn't fast for a motorcycle. Rick A17 ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Jeff Saline To: doug@wombatz. com Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thu, October 22, 2009 8:33:03 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Oil Consumption 2009 KLR **CORRECTION* * On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 06:28:34 -0700 Doug Herr writes: SNIP

> So, exactly how is it that people are figuring that this mod increases

power?

> > -- > Doug Herr > doug@wombatz. com

<><><><><><> <><><> <><><><><><> <><><> Doug, I'm gonna guess that almost everyone that talks about power on the KLR is using a butt dyno. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads. org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT . ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ House Rescue Bill Passed $133,000 mortgage under $679/mo. Compare rates and save! http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ c?cp=7uk3kAJk6tb dH85gmmq1HAAAJ1D WfJIDP-R0_ NC3mMpGFS0kAAQAA AAFAAAAAPTwTz8AA AMlAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAaTcQAAAAA= [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jeff Khoury]

Thomas, Rick, Preach on, brother! I've had TONS of bikes but nothing beats the versatility of my KLR. It comes off the line faster than all but the most exotic of sports cars, its low-to mid speed maneuverability is superb, its suspension makes even the most uneven of roads seem smooth. Don't get me wrong, there are better bikes for every thing that the KLR can do, but none of them do ALL of them like it can. Highway stability is excellent until you top 85 (on the *%&ing grooved pavement around here). And with a $20.00 seat pad, long trips are not only possible, but enjoyable too. Out here in California where KLRs are not that common, I get plenty of questions and comments. I recommend a ride through Big Sur if you ever get a chance. That stretch of road on my KLR is one of the most enjoyable rides I've ever taken and it is a road absolutely designed for the KLR. Average speed is about 45-50mph with tight turns and breathtaking sights. Just when you think it can't get any more beautiful you are surprised by what is around the next bend. I recommend heading South from Monterrey at about noon. Take it easy and you'll be able to watch the sunset as you head into San Luis Obispo. -Jeff Khoury Astatic Solutions, LLC.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Komjathy" To: "Rick McCauley" , "dsn klr650" dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:45:31 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Oil Consumption 2009 KLR **CORRECTION** Rick Excellent comparative statement about the KLR being as fast as most cars,particularly when most people would love to have that type of performance from their car. The KLR, as most have stated, does many things well, making it one of the most versatile and affordable bikes on the planet. I have had my KLR on the track at Barber and othe then the main straight, I was doing just as well and in some cases passing some in the coners. Point being, in the right hands of a trained person, this bike will perform very well. As a 15 year MSF, rider educator, I can qualitatively say the KLR is one of the best bikes there is to teach a person some of the finer riding skills. One of those is; relaxing while riding the KLR, because anyone that has significant miles on one can tell you, it doesn't like a tense rider. There's others, but I can say, this is a fantastic bike. Then add supportive lists like this one and that is the icing on the cake. TK ________________________________ From: Rick McCauley < ramachm12@... > To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, October 22, 2009 10:24:31 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Oil Consumption 2009 KLR **CORRECTION** I think many people imagine a HP increase after a mod is done. Like glass packs on your car. Sounds louder, so it must be faster. In reality glass packs resricted flow, even though they were straight thru. The internal fins caused flow restricting turbulence. I think we all would like a little more oomph from the KLR, but in reality, it isn't there, without things like a hotter cams, bigger piston, higher compression etc. Even then it is still a 650 single. It's long life potetial makes up for its power shortage in my opinion. And when you think about it, the KLR is just as fast as all but the fastest of cars. It just isn't fast for a motorcycle. Rick A17 ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Jeff Saline To: doug@wombatz. com Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thu, October 22, 2009 8:33:03 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Oil Consumption 2009 KLR **CORRECTION* * On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 06:28:34 -0700 Doug Herr writes: SNIP > So, exactly how is it that people are figuring that this mod increases power? > > -- > Doug Herr > doug@wombatz. com <><><><><><> <><><> <><><><><><> <><><> Doug, I'm gonna guess that almost everyone that talks about power on the KLR is using a butt dyno. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads. org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT . ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ House Rescue Bill Passed $133,000 mortgage under $679/mo. Compare rates and save! http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ c?cp=7uk3kAJk6tb dH85gmmq1HAAAJ1D WfJIDP-R0_ NC3mMpGFS0kAAQAA AAFAAAAAPTwTz8AA AMlAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAaTcQAAAAA= [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Rick McCauley]

Not very many in central Illinois either. Young boys just stare when you ride thru a small town. Ah the KLR future looks good. Hopefully they will go back to the old body style, (pre 08) with upgrades to the suspension & brakes by then. Sorry, I am just not a fan of the new style. No offense intended. Rick A17 ________________________________ From: Jeff Khoury To: Thomas Komjathy Cc: Rick McCauley ; dsn klr650 dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thu, October 22, 2009 10:32:32 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Oil Consumption 2009 KLR **CORRECTION** SNIP> Out here in California where KLRs are not that common, I get plenty of questions and comments -Jeff Khoury Astatic Solutions, LLC. Recent Activity * 10 New Members * 2 New PhotosVisit Your Group Give Back Yahoo! for Good Get inspired by a good cause. Y! Toolbar Get it Free! easy 1-click access to your groups. Yahoo! Groups Start a group in 3 easy steps. Connect with others. . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Mike Frey]

>> Jeff Khoury wrote: >> I recommend a ride through Big Sur if you ever get a chance.

A very enjoyable trip, going in either direction on PCH, is to take the Nacimiento-Fergusson Road through Hunter Military Reservation, then from the other end in Jolon, you have several choices - North, South, or farther east. All good KLR roads. Here in PA, I have 4 licensed bikes in the garage. The KLR continues to be the one that I am on most often. Mike Jeff Khoury wrote:

> > > Thomas, Rick, > > Preach on, brother! I've had TONS of bikes but nothing beats the > versatility of my KLR. It comes off the line faster than all but the > most exotic of sports cars, its low-to mid speed maneuverability is > superb, its suspension makes even the most uneven of roads seem > smooth. Don't get me wrong, there are better bikes for every thing > that the KLR can do, but none of them do ALL of them like it can. > > Highway stability is excellent until you top 85 (on the *%&ing grooved > pavement around here). And with a $20.00 seat pad, long trips are not > only possible, but enjoyable too. Out here in California where KLRs > are not that common, I get plenty of questions and comments. > > I recommend a ride through Big Sur if you ever get a chance. That > stretch of road on my KLR is one of the most enjoyable rides I've ever > taken and it is a road absolutely designed for the KLR. Average speed > is about 45-50mph with tight turns and breathtaking sights. Just when > you think it can't get any more beautiful you are surprised by what is > around the next bend. I recommend heading South from Monterrey at > about noon. Take it easy and you'll be able to watch the sunset as you > head into San Luis Obispo. > > -Jeff Khoury > Astatic Solutions, LLC. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thomas Komjathy" > > To: "Rick McCauley" >, "dsn klr650" > dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:45:31 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Oil Consumption 2009 KLR **CORRECTION** > > Rick > > Excellent comparative statement about the KLR being as fast > as most cars,particularly when most people would love to have that type > of performance from their car. The KLR, as most have stated, does many > things well, making it one of the most versatile and affordable bikes > on the planet. I have had my KLR on the track at Barber and othe then > the main straight, I was doing just as well and in some cases passing > some in the coners. Point being, in the right hands of a trained > person, this bike will perform very well. As a 15 year MSF, rider > educator, I can qualitatively say the KLR is one of the best bikes > there is to teach a person some of the finer riding skills. One of > those is; relaxing while riding the KLR, because anyone that has > significant miles on one can tell you, it doesn't like a tense rider. > There's others, but I can say, this is a fantastic bike. Then add > supportive lists like this one and that is the icing on the cake. > > TK > > ________________________________ > From: Rick McCauley < ramachm12@... > > > To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thu, October 22, 2009 10:24:31 AM > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Oil Consumption 2009 KLR **CORRECTION** > > I think many people imagine a HP increase after a mod is done. > Like glass packs on your car. Sounds louder, so it must be faster. > In reality glass packs resricted flow, even though they were straight > thru. > The internal fins caused flow restricting turbulence. > I think we all would like a little more oomph from the KLR, but in > reality, > it isn't there, without things like a hotter cams, bigger piston, > higher compression etc. > Even then it is still a 650 single. It's long life potetial makes up > for its power shortage in > my opinion. And when you think about it, the KLR is just as fast as > all but the fastest of cars. > It just isn't fast for a motorcycle. > > Rick > A17 > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Jeff Saline > To: doug@wombatz. com > Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com > Sent: Thu, October 22, 2009 8:33:03 AM > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Oil Consumption 2009 KLR **CORRECTION* * > > On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 06:28:34 -0700 Doug Herr writes: > > SNIP > > > So, exactly how is it that people are figuring that this mod increases > power? > > > > -- > > Doug Herr > > doug@wombatz. com > <><><><><><> <><><> > <><><><><><> <><><> > > Doug, > > I'm gonna guess that almost everyone that talks about power on the KLR is > using a butt dyno. > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads. org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > . > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > House Rescue Bill Passed > $133,000 mortgage under $679/mo. Compare rates and save! > http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ c?cp=7uk3kAJk6tb > dH85gmmq1HAAAJ1D WfJIDP-R0_ NC3mMpGFS0kAAQAA AAFAAAAAPTwTz8AA > AMlAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAaTcQAAAAA= > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >

[Rick McCauley]

How dare you even suggest a lower seat on the KLR. My 35" inseam is offended. Rick A17 ________________________________ From: Charles To: Rick McCauley Sent: Thu, October 22, 2009 11:16:22 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Oil Consumption 2009 KLR **CORRECTION** The only change I'd like to see for sure, at this point, is a lower seat height from the factory, rather than to have to change it to fit me. Chuck F. NE PA Ebony 2009 KLR650

----- Original Message ----- >From: Rick McCauley Not very many in central Illinois either. >Young boys just stare when you ride thru a small town. >Ah the KLR future looks good. Hopefully they will go back to the >old body style, (pre 08) with upgrades to the suspension & brakes by then. >Sorry, I am just not a fan of the new style. No offense intended. > >Rick >A17 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[transalp1@mindspring.com]

Lower seat? What's that? - 30" inseam eddie 09' with Walmart ATV seat cover, stock suspension. -----Original Message-----

>From: Rick McCauley >Sent: Oct 22, 2009 12:55 PM >To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Oil Consumption 2009 KLR **CORRECTION** > >How dare you even suggest a lower seat on the KLR. >My 35" inseam is offended. > >Rick >A17 > > >