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[Fred Hink]

Hmmm.. Since your air is inside a tube, I doubt you will see much advantage using nitrogen to eliminating corrosion inside your wheel. The advantage in using nitrogen is that it has very low moisture content. It is the moisture that heats up and expands which causes pressures to change. That is why nitrogen is used in shocks. If you use nitrogen in tires or tubes, I'd think you would want to add a few extra pounds since it probably isn't going to increase in pressure like air would as it warms up. Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com http://s1.zetaboards.com/arrowhead

----- Original Message ----- From: Rick McCauley To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] re: Preventing Fast Deflation Things that make you go.... Hmmm Rick A17 --- On Mon, 6/15/09, Jeff Khoury wrote: From: Jeff Khoury Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] re: Preventing Fast Deflation To: "Robert Waters" Cc: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Date: Monday, June 15, 2009, 11:40 AM Since the air is 75%+ nitrogen already, I can hardly see much difference in using it over regular air, other than having it be "dry" to eliminate corrosion of the inside of your wheel. If that were the case, if you had a slow leakin' tire and the pores were big enough for the oxygen to escape but not the (slightly) larger nitrogen molecules then eventually you'd end up with almost pure nitrogen after just a couple of top-offs (right?) As in: First fill: 75% nitrogen 25% volume "escapes" Top off: 75% of 25% remaining volume = ~18% of total 18% + 75% = 93% nitrogen after just one top-off. or am I missing something? -Jeff Khoury Astatic Solutions, LLC. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Waters" To: "DSN KLR650" Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 9:30:36 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] re: Preventing Fast Deflation Hello Rev, From what I have read about Nitrogen, it does little to help. In fact, because of the cost some consider it a scam. Hexafluoride is MUCH heavier and likely would not leak through the rubber. By the way, I took soap and water and could not find a leak. RW RE: [DSN_KLR650] re: Preventing Fast Deflation Nitrogen. Its molecules are larger than air so they don't 'seep' through the tire as easily. Also, there's no oxygen or humidity in it to corrode wheels (if that's a problem). I suspect that if it's leaking fast enough to bother you, there's a leak and nitrogen would probably leak out just as fast. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jeff Khoury]

Well, if you want to dry the air, simply stuff some of the mother-in-law's Thanksgiving turkey through the valve stem. That crap would dry up the everglades. -Jeff Khoury

----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Hink" To: "dsn klr650" dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com>, "Rick McCauley" Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 10:50:13 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] re: Preventing Fast Deflation Hmmm.. Since your air is inside a tube, I doubt you will see much advantage using nitrogen to eliminating corrosion inside your wheel. The advantage in using nitrogen is that it has very low moisture content. It is the moisture that heats up and expands which causes pressures to change. That is why nitrogen is used in shocks. If you use nitrogen in tires or tubes, I'd think you would want to add a few extra pounds since it probably isn't going to increase in pressure like air would as it warms up. Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com http://s1.zetaboards.com/arrowhead ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick McCauley To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] re: Preventing Fast Deflation Things that make you go.... Hmmm Rick A17 --- On Mon, 6/15/09, Jeff Khoury < jeff@... > wrote: From: Jeff Khoury < jeff@... > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] re: Preventing Fast Deflation To: "Robert Waters" < robertwaters@... > Cc: "DSN KLR650" < DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Date: Monday, June 15, 2009, 11:40 AM Since the air is 75%+ nitrogen already, I can hardly see much difference in using it over regular air, other than having it be "dry" to eliminate corrosion of the inside of your wheel. If that were the case, if you had a slow leakin' tire and the pores were big enough for the oxygen to escape but not the (slightly) larger nitrogen molecules then eventually you'd end up with almost pure nitrogen after just a couple of top-offs (right?) As in: First fill: 75% nitrogen 25% volume "escapes" Top off: 75% of 25% remaining volume = ~18% of total 18% + 75% = 93% nitrogen after just one top-off. or am I missing something? -Jeff Khoury Astatic Solutions, LLC. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Waters" To: "DSN KLR650" Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 9:30:36 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] re: Preventing Fast Deflation Hello Rev, From what I have read about Nitrogen, it does little to help. In fact, because of the cost some consider it a scam. Hexafluoride is MUCH heavier and likely would not leak through the rubber. By the way, I took soap and water and could not find a leak. RW RE: [DSN_KLR650] re: Preventing Fast Deflation Nitrogen. Its molecules are larger than air so they don't 'seep' through the tire as easily. Also, there's no oxygen or humidity in it to corrode wheels (if that's a problem). I suspect that if it's leaking fast enough to bother you, there's a leak and nitrogen would probably leak out just as fast. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Chris Norloff]

I, too, wonder about the effectiveness of using nitrogen to inflate tires/tubes on an ordinary motorcycle. As mentioned before, air is mostly nitrogen (approx. 78%). Inflating tires with nitrogen only gets it to about 90-95% nitrogen unless the tire has been evacuated before being filled with nitrogen. That would probably be easier with a tube, especially if it was never filled with air. So you're increasing the nitrogen content in the tire/tube by 10 or maybe 20% -- unless you're a high-speed aircraft or military application I think it's unlikely to have a measurable effect. Except on your wallet. Your Mileage May Vary Chris

[Tumu Rock]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Waters" wrote:

> Hexafluoride is > MUCH heavier and likely would not leak through the rubber.

But that means more unsprung weight... ;-/ da Vermonster

[Robert Waters]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/post?postID=aZn8ZCHVFApK\ Aq3ONZ2ty5hR58VE7nDN-qNs2kBkpIC7MZ_W0cZIKdEdGqcyOChY1JLcaoZlhx_qCLcCaVDu\ axr4gA> , "Robert Waters" wrote:

> Hexafluoride is > MUCH heavier and likely would not leak through the rubber.

But that means more unsprung weight... ;-/ da Vermonster Yes, hexafluoride is so heavy you can float a ship on it. I'm not kidding. You can find it on YouTube. I do not know why my latest set of Avon Gripsters leak--front and rear. They have done so from the day I had them put on. Shouldn't the dealer be responsible to replace the tubes if gas is going through them with out there being a repairable leak? rw [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[fasteddiecopeman]

Jeff, You better hope your "better half" doesn't see this post, or you'll be in the 'Dog house' FOREVER!!! Ed

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Khoury wrote: > > Well, if you want to dry the air, simply stuff some of the mother-in-law's Thanksgiving turkey through the valve stem. > > That crap would dry up the everglades. > > -Jeff Khoury

[Michael Martin]

Hi Benji, I did a Google search on "how to make decals" and found some information about how to do it. Then I searched on "decal paper" and found this site: http://www.decalpaper.com/product-p/tryc.htm They explain how to do it and sell a variety of special papers for the job, including clear. Whatever you do, you'd have to make sure that the clearcoat you're spraying the tank with will be compatible with the decal. And I don't know how colorfast a decal made with an inkjet printer would be. Heh heh. I had to look up the term, "dab hand". HTH, Mike Martin, Louisville, KY ________________________________ From: benji_sounds Hello question concerning decals, My tank needs respraying and i cant purchase the decals from kawasaki, any ideas? could I replicate them with something i am a dab hand on photoshop (an image editing software) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jim Douglas]

What about those foam(?) inserts that the MX guy's use, have not seen them advertised in a while......They are hard foam/rubber that take the place of the inner tube, I think! There was a website that showed how to install them, someone else will remember this and have more information.........

> > > Jeff, > You better hope your "better half" doesn't see this post, or you'll be > in the 'Dog house' FOREVER!!! > Ed > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > , Jeff Khoury wrote: > > > > Well, if you want to dry the air, simply stuff some of the > mother-in-law's Thanksgiving turkey through the valve stem. > > > > That crap would dry up the everglades. > > > > -Jeff Khoury > >

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