looking for a dual sport ride

[Tumu Rock]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Tengai Mark Van Horn wrote:

> > >2.Also, I am getting alot of chirping noises out > >of my muffler (making a funny sound). I was > >wondering what may cause this or is the muffler > >shot. Are these two problems connected? > > That's what we in the industry call an "undocumented feature" of the bike. >

AKA "Tweety". Sounds a bit like an old VW van? The fix is to take a big screwdriver or chisel and ram it up the exhaust. Split the perforated metal tube inside and the sound disappears. Look in the files and FAQ sections of this board for more info. da Vermonster

[Jeff Khoury]

Also, check the pilot jet in the carb. They are the first thing to clog if a bike is left sitting with gas in the bowl (I literally fix this problem all the time for people, not just on KLRs but every other type of carbureted bike). Popping is usually a sign of a lean condition and if it does it on deceleration, it's the idle (pilot) circuit that deserves a first look. If this condition is left alone, it will eventually get worse to the point that the bike will not idle or run without the choke being on. *Loosen the clamps on both sides. *Disconnect throttle cables, you can leave the choke cable, just be careful with it. *Turn off the gas and drain the bowl using the screw. *rotate the carb sideways so you can access the screws on the bottom *remove the bowl so you can see the jets *unscrew the pilot jet (the small one) *make sure all the holes are clear, use a strand off a brass wire brush or a guitar string to clean the holes. Use copious quantities of carb cleaner. Run Sea Foam for a couple of tanks to clean everything else. This will usually fix the problem. This takes under 30 mins even for newbies. Beware of overtighening when re-installing the jet. If you have a tweety exhaust, you can also get a 2" hole saw and saw out a hole around the exhaust exit, then have a tip welded into place. You will get a little better flow and a LOT better sound. -Jeff Khoury

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tumu Rock" To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 5:46:15 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: KLR questions --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com , Tengai Mark Van Horn wrote: > > >2.Also, I am getting alot of chirping noises out > >of my muffler (making a funny sound). I was > >wondering what may cause this or is the muffler > >shot. Are these two problems connected? > > That's what we in the industry call an "undocumented feature" of the bike. > AKA "Tweety". Sounds a bit like an old VW van? The fix is to take a big screwdriver or chisel and ram it up the exhaust. Split the perforated metal tube inside and the sound disappears. Look in the files and FAQ sections of this board for more info. da Vermonster [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Ron Magen]

Joel, Jeff, et al . . . Been using this 'trick' for years with outboard motors - and now do it on the KLR. At the end of the ride, or when done for the day, run the carb dry. While on it's stand, leave it idling and turn the fuel petcock OFF. In about a minute it will use up the fuel in the carb bowl. Turn off the key & proceed as usual. Also, as a matter of course I put in a 'fuel preservative' when I fill up. {If you ride every day, and fill-up on a weekly basis - this is not really necessary} Regards & Good Luck, Ron Magen Backyard Boatshop {'03 KLR} 1c. Re: KLR questions Posted by: "Jeff Khoury" jeff@... DsrtEgl Date: Tue Jun 2, 2009 11:30 am ((PDT)) {snip} They are the first thing to clog if a bike is left sitting with gas in the bowl . . .

[Jeff Khoury]

Ron, You are somewhat correct, and that's definitely better than nothing. That will suck most of the fuel out of the bowl, and get it down far enough that it probably won't clog the pilot jet. However, it will not completely drain the bowl, because the jets (in most cases, there are exceptions) don't draw from the bottom. They stick down into the bowl and draw from different levels. For example, the Pilot (idle) jet draws from a higher level in the bowl than the main does, so the main will still be submerged if you just let it idle until it dies. If you hold the throttle open a bit, it will drain more as the main draws from a deeper level. As this remaining portion of gas evaporates, it will leave a varnish in the bottom of the bowl, but it should not be on the jets. The only way to get it completely empty is to use the drain screw in the bottom of the bowl. That being said, I ride almost daily so I don't worry about it. I've had several people come to me with bad idle, popping and hesitation-off-idle problems and 90+% of the time it's a clogged pilot jet from varnish. California gas is particularly bad due to all our additives. Fortunately it's an easy fix on the KLR because the carb is so easy to get to. Now if you're talking about a v-star... that's another story. -Jeff Khoury Astatic Solutions, LLC.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Magen" To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 7:32:41 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: KLR questions Joel, Jeff, et al . . . Been using this 'trick' for years with outboard motors - and now do it on the KLR. At the end of the ride, or when done for the day, run the carb dry. While on it's stand, leave it idling and turn the fuel petcock OFF. In about a minute it will use up the fuel in the carb bowl. Turn off the key & proceed as usual. Also, as a matter of course I put in a 'fuel preservative' when I fill up. {If you ride every day, and fill-up on a weekly basis - this is not really necessary} Regards & Good Luck, Ron Magen Backyard Boatshop {'03 KLR} 1c. Re: KLR questions Posted by: "Jeff Khoury" jeff@... DsrtEgl Date: Tue Jun 2, 2009 11:30 am ((PDT)) {snip} They are the first thing to clog if a bike is left sitting with gas in the bowl . . . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[dooden]

Myself I would add Seafoam to the tank and drain the float bowl on the carb and see if riding will clear up the Pilot circuit, if you have already drilled out the plug over the adjusting screw give the screw a 1/2 turn out and ride it with the Seafoam to clear out any varnish that may have built up. Before removing and tearing the carb apart. Also popping can also come from loose exhaust connections, check header at the cylinder and behind the rear brake master where the pipe clamps onto the header. As for the "Tweety" sounds ( Old VW sounding right ? ) if you look in the end of the pipe you will see a preforated tube with a seam on the bottom, long flat tip screw driver and a hammer, split that seam and spread it apart as best you can. Next time the bike starts expect it to cough out alot of fiberglass packing that is in the end of the pipe. Happy Trails... Dooden A15 Green Ape (Living Tweety Free)

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Joel Maiorano wrote: > > > I became a KLR 650 owner (2004) for the first time last month. Joined the listserv and have been watching and learning. I have two questions regarding some challenges I have having with my bike. > > 1. In order not to get my KLR to not back fire with popping noises when I down shift, I have to run it rich (keep the choke up on it).Any thoughts on how this can be addressed. > > 2.Also, I am getting alot of chirping noises out of my muffler (making a funny sound). I was wondering what may cause this or is the muffler shot. Are these two problems connected? > > Thanks for your thoughts. Much appreciated. > Joel > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[Rick McCauley]

Seems like several of you are organizing rides. This made me wonder if anyone is close to my area. Anyone out there in the central to north central Illinois area? Rick A17

--- On Thu, 6/4/09, Tengai Mark Van Horn wrote: From: Tengai Mark Van Horn Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Looking for a dual sport ride To: "Craig Kahler" Cc: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 8:48 AM PS: If you get the entry form in the mail today (or by Saturday at the latest- there's usually a little latitude), you'll get the T-shirt for free. It's a really nice shirt. I'm not riding it this year (let my AMA membership lapse, and too busy with kayaking), but I am going up to buy a shirt. The more I think about it, I'd be interested in hosting a ride for Saturday, the day before the PATRA ride. Any folks interested? Mark [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]