On Mar 30, 2009, at 8:40 AM, Fred Hink wrote:
> Can a hybrid motorcycle be in our future?
>
http://world.honda.com/news/2009/c090324GS-Yuasa-and-Honda/
>
> Fred
>
www.arrowheadmotorsports.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rick McCauley
> To:
dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 6:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Can Lipo or Nimh batteries be used in
> motorcycles?
>
> That is a good question. Things are a little tight right now. I
> found the correct battery at
> Wal-Mart for $33.00. Kinda hard to pass that up. But I like the
> idea of never worrying about the liquid level. I think that when
> this one dies, I will get an AGM type battery. For now, I will just
> keep an eye on the fluid level. My original battery lasted 4 riding
> seasons. Maybe by then the AGM prices will level off a bit.
>
> Rick
> A17
>
> --- On Sat, 3/28/09, jokerloco9@... wrote:
>
> From: jokerloco9@...
> Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Can Lipo or Nimh batteries be used in
> motorcycles?
> To: dooden@...,
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, March 28, 2009, 7:37 PM
>
> While I agree that the AGM battery is probably better, what is the
> cost/benefit difference?
>
> I have a standard car size Optima battery in my race car. It cost
> $180. I
> also had the cheapest Pep Boys lead-acid battery in my other race
> car for 9
> 1/2 years. Yes, 9 1/2 years. Probably about $60 battery right now.
> It was
> still working fine, just low on capacity. I changed to electric
> fans/water
> pump and wanted more reserve.
>
> Jeff A20
>
> In a message dated 3/28/2009 4:07:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> dooden@yahoo. com writes:
>
> Nothing.. Its sealed.
>
> Install and ride.
>
> Dooden
> A15 Green Ape
>
> --- In _DSN_KLR650@ yahoogroDSN_ KLR_ (mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogro
> ups.com) ,
> Rick McCauley wrote:
> >
> > My 2003 KLR eats battery fluid, and has from day one. I have to add
> distilled water two to three times in one riding season. Will the
> same happen if I
> start using the AGM battery? If so what do I add?
> >
> > Rick
> > A17
> >
> > --- On Fri, 3/27/09, Mike Frey wrote:
> >
> > From: Mike Frey
> > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Can Lipo or Nimh batteries be used in
> motorcycles?
> > To: "List KLR" (mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com) >
> > Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 11:19 AM
> >
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> > +1 on all that.
> >
> > My experience with AGM batteries is that they put the
> > "standard" lead acid batteries way behind in technology.
> >
> > After 6 months of sitting, the AGM battery is still at 100% (or
> close)
> > fully charged. Probably longer, but I haven't gone longer than 6
> months
> > between rides on a bike with an AGM battery in it.
> >
> > Lay the bike on it's side, or even upside down, and the AGM battery
> > does not care. Nothing will leak out of it.
> >
> > The 5 year old battery in my ZRX behaves as if it is brand new.
> > The 2 year old battery in my west coast KLR is the one that sits for
> > long periods of time. Turn key, start bike, ride.
> >
> > I'm a convert. AGM all the way, from now on. I know AGM batteries
> > won't last forever, but they are lasting longer than my rechargeable
> > camera batteries.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > E.L. Green wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com
> > > , "nakedwaterskier"
> > > wrote:
> > > > or they wouldn't be compatible with the KLR charging system?
> > >
> > > Decidedly *not* compatible with the KLR charging system, which is
> > > about as sophisticated as a stone axe. Lithium batteries need a
> very
> > > specialized charging circuitry (I won't bore you with the
> details, I
> > > know too much from experience as a design engineer with that
> subject),
> > > and while NiMH batteries aren't quite as specialized, their
> cells are
> > > a completely different voltage from lead-acid cells (1.2v vs.
> 2.1v)
> > > and furthermore are incapable of providing the high starting
> current
> > > needed by the starter in a form factor as small as the KLR's
> battery
> > > box. The Toyota Prius, which uses NiMH batteries, has a high-
> voltage
> > > alternator and a lot of cells for a multi-hundred- volt battery
> pack
> > > and its "starter" is a 300 volt electric motor supplied from those
> > > cells, and it produces 12 volts for the accessories using power
> supply
> > > like you might see inside a computer (i.e., regulates the high
> voltage
> > > from its battery pack down to 12 volts that your GPS can use
> when you
> > > plug your GPS into the accessory socket).
> > >
> > > In short: Don't even think about it
. For the KLR's
> purposes, the
> > > good ole' lead-acid battery, preferably in its sealed AGM
> (Absorbed
> > > Glass Matt) form, is the best choice. High current capacity for
> > > starting (lead-acid batteries have the highest cranking amps
> density
> > > of any kind of battery), easy charging circuitry, what more
> could you
> > > want?
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