klr650: block heater cheapo way

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hotrodkawi
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stripped footpeg nut

Post by hotrodkawi » Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:19 am

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "MarkB" wrote:
> > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, David Bell wrote: > > > > I know this is a common problem. I stripped the nut behind the > mounting box on my rt. footpeg. I have a centerstand, in case that > matters. > > > > I've seen an elaborate fix which involves drilling out the nuts
in
> the box with a small hole saw, welding a plate with new nuts in the > new holes in the box, and having a better than new mounting
bracket.
> I have a oxy acetylene torch and a stick welder and limited welding > skills. I was hoping for something simpler and easier. > > > > What is wrong with these ideas? > > > > 1. 8 mm Helicoil in the box > > 2. Drill the stripped hole out a bit and tap it for 9 or 10 mm > > > > If either of those works, which one works better? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > db > > > > It all depends on how you use the bike. The 8mm stripped because
they
> are too weak for the load that you placed on them. Many riders do
the
> drill and tap / helicoil and refit with 10mm grade 8 bolts. > > Photo how-to here ...
http://markb.smugmug.com/gallery/1710495_Y4AxD
> > The only proper way is to refit the box with heavier nuts. The
little
> 8m nuts just don't have enough metal to stand up to serious abuse.
I
> opened the box up and welded in a set of grade 8 nuts, 10mm. > > Photo how-to here ... > http://markb.smugmug.com/gallery/2406593_HKGbE#126134157_VoDpo > > > Good luck with your project! >
I just did strip out one myself..I too just shot in some heli coils seems way stronger that the stock set up..If this breaks I'll have to midevil on it's ass and rip open the box replace the nuts.I hope that won't happen. I just shit canned the center stand too..It was convienent but I was taking it off and on so much that's how I stripped out the hole to begin with. I'll bet I'll never have a problem again with the heli coils..The feel really strong.

fmhilton
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stripped footpeg nut

Post by fmhilton » Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:49 pm

Mark, thanks for sharing and thank for taking time to make the DIY photos. Mike H.
----- Original Message ----- From: MarkB To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 1:38 AM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: stripped footpeg nut --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, David Bell wrote: > > I know this is a common problem. I stripped the nut behind the mounting box on my rt. footpeg. I have a centerstand, in case that matters. > > I've seen an elaborate fix which involves drilling out the nuts in the box with a small hole saw, welding a plate with new nuts in the new holes in the box, and having a better than new mounting bracket. I have a oxy acetylene torch and a stick welder and limited welding skills. I was hoping for something simpler and easier. > > What is wrong with these ideas? > > 1. 8 mm Helicoil in the box > 2. Drill the stripped hole out a bit and tap it for 9 or 10 mm > > If either of those works, which one works better? > > Thanks in advance. > > db > It all depends on how you use the bike. The 8mm stripped because they are too weak for the load that you placed on them. Many riders do the drill and tap / helicoil and refit with 10mm grade 8 bolts. Photo how-to here ... http://markb.smugmug.com/gallery/1710495_Y4AxD The only proper way is to refit the box with heavier nuts. The little 8m nuts just don't have enough metal to stand up to serious abuse. I opened the box up and welded in a set of grade 8 nuts, 10mm. Photo how-to here ... http://markb.smugmug.com/gallery/2406593_HKGbE#126134157_VoDpo Good luck with your project! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

revmaaatin
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stripped footpeg nut

Post by revmaaatin » Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:38 pm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "MarkB" wrote:
> > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, David Bell wrote: > > > > I know this is a common problem. I stripped the nut behind the > mounting box on my rt. footpeg. I have a centerstand, in case that > matters. > > > > I've seen an elaborate fix which involves drilling out the nuts in > the box with a small hole saw, welding a plate with new nuts in the > new holes in the box, and having a better than new mounting
bracket.
> I have a oxy acetylene torch and a stick welder and limited welding > skills. I was hoping for something simpler and easier. > > > > What is wrong with these ideas? > > > > 1. 8 mm Helicoil in the box > > 2. Drill the stripped hole out a bit and tap it for 9 or 10 mm > > > > If either of those works, which one works better? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > db > > > > It all depends on how you use the bike. The 8mm stripped because
they
> are too weak for the load that you placed on them. Many riders do
the
> drill and tap / helicoil and refit with 10mm grade 8 bolts. > > Photo how-to here ... http://markb.smugmug.com/gallery/1710495_Y4AxD > > The only proper way is to refit the box with heavier nuts. The
little
> 8m nuts just don't have enough metal to stand up to serious abuse. I > opened the box up and welded in a set of grade 8 nuts, 10mm. > > Photo how-to here ... > http://markb.smugmug.com/gallery/2406593_HKGbE#126134157_VoDpo > > > Good luck with your project! >
Mark, As always, most excellent and useful. revmaaatin.

David Bell
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stripped footpeg nut

Post by David Bell » Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:43 pm

Now that's a good set of pics. I have a sawzall and a stick welder. Also, as luck would have it, a new partner of mine told me that he does some metal work. I asked him about Mig welding, thinking if my helicoils did not hold up I could ride over to his house and he could help me with a welded fix. Today he brought in a small Lincoln wire welder with two spools of fluxed wire. It can be converted to a mig setup with a kit, I believe. He basically said for me to take it home and keep it as long as I wanted, he has a bigger and better one now. I think I'll ask him about his plasma cutter........ ________________________________ F
> --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, David Bell wrote: > > > > I know this is a common problem. I stripped the nut behind the > mounting box on my rt. footpeg. I have a centerstand, in case that > matters. > > > > I've seen an elaborate fix which involves drilling out the nuts in > the box with a small hole saw, welding a plate with new nuts in the > new holes in the box, and having a better than new mounting
bracket.
> I have a oxy acetylene torch and a stick welder and limited welding > skills. I was hoping for something simpler and easier. > > > > What is wrong with these ideas? > > > > 1. 8 mm Helicoil in the box > > 2. Drill the stripped hole out a bit and tap it for 9 or 10 mm > > > > If either of those works, which one works better? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > db > > > > It all depends on how you use the bike. The 8mm stripped because
they
> are too weak for the load that you placed on them. Many riders do
the
> drill and tap / helicoil and refit with 10mm grade 8 bolts. > > Photo how-to here ... http://markb. smugmug.com/ gallery/1710495_ Y4AxD > > The only proper way is to refit the box with heavier nuts. The
little
> 8m nuts just don't have enough metal to stand up to serious abuse. I > opened the box up and welded in a set of grade 8 nuts, 10mm. > > Photo how-to here ... > http://markb. smugmug.com/ gallery/2406593_ HKGbE#126134157_ VoDpo > > > Good luck with your project! >
Mark, As always, most excellent and useful. revmaaatin. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Jim Douglas
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klr650: block heater cheapo way

Post by Jim Douglas » Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:47 am

George Basinet wrote:
> > Maybe an electric blanket or a heating pad would work. Go down to your > local Salvation Army Store and buy one. If the price is right pay > double. Keep the bike and someone else warm for the holidays. > > George, thinking of Thanksgiving in > Rancho Bernardo, CA > > Jim Douglas wrote: > > > > Luc Legrain wrote: > > > I just change oil and filter before the cold weather, so synthetic > > > is out ,for now. my wife had one of those simmering incense pots, I > > > opened it up and found that there was a 15w heater encased in ceramic > > > about 1 1/2 x 1/2 , I JB welded it to the bottom of crankcase, drying > > > stage at this time . > > > Jim, let me know what you come up with. > > > > > > --- On *Sat, 11/22/08, Jim Douglas > > > / > > >/* wrote: > > > > > > From: Jim Douglas > > > > > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: klr650: block heater > > > To: "Eric Foster" > > > > > > Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 8:12 AM > > > > > > Eric Foster wrote: > > > > > > > > Three answers. > > > > (1) Run synth oil. It flows cold same as warm. > > > > (2) Heat your garage. :-) (Had to say it!) > > > > (3) Place a floodlamp close and under the bike. It's a cheap > > > trick up > > > > here in the NE to keep fuel oil from gelling. > > > > > > > > E > > > > > > > > -- > > > > "If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude > > > > better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in > > > peace. > > > > We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the > > > hands > > > > which feed you. > > > > May your chains set lightly upon you,and may posterity forget > > > that you > > > > were our countrymen." > > > > > > > > Samuel Adams, 1776 > > > > > > > > > > > The floodlamp was my concept also. I am going to go to the electronics > > > store today and see what they have as i believe I could make these for > > > nothing! > > > > > > > > > > > This is what I was thinking about is trying to find some type of > > 'heating' element > > that could attached, great find with that thing! I still believe the > > least expensive, > > but may cost $$ electricity, is one of those clamp-on bulb holders with > > a large > > wattage bulb, I used these for my cheapo photography lighting and > > believe me > > those things get hot enough to cook steak on! > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com http://www.avg.com> > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1803 - Release Date: > 11/21/2008 9:37 AM > > > > > >
YOu could velcro that on the bike?

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