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Jon Neet · Post by **Jon Neet** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:17 pm

I never sit at a stop in gear on any motorcycle, or car for that matter. Sitting in gear with the clutch dissengaged will cause wear to whatever release mechanism the vehicle has. I also ride a 2007 Royal Enfield 500 Bullet Classic. It has a design basically from the 1950s, and the clutch will not stand up to sitting at stops in gear. If you do that, you will soon find that you won't be able to find neutral as the clutch will not totally disengage. I alsway stick it in neutral just before the stop.Ridden thusly, the bike will be able to do the neutral/1st gear shift smoothly and easily like a Japanese bike. The KLR clutch may well stand up to sitting in gear, but I choose to be in neutral. Jon in Puyallup, Wa. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Chris Norloff · Post by **Chris Norloff** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:07 am

No, the bike doesn't launch into traffic if the clutch just releases. It'll jump forward a foot or two and the engine stalls. And the bike may fall over because it surprised you. That's all. Doubt it? Try it! Sitting on your bike, with the engine at idle, release the clutch suddenly. The bike will not go flying. It's much safer to keep the bike in gear and ready to move out, at least until several cars are behind you and protecting you from people coming from behind. The miniscule wear and tear on the clutch and clutch actuating mechanism is negligible. best, Chris -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brent Tegler Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 3:53 PM To: Jeff Saline; eddiebmauri@... Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Clutch In-or-Out at Red Lights? Way back when I was told NOT to sit at a red light with my motorcycle in gear. The reason being the clutch cable could snap, unlikely but if it did it could launch the bike (and you) into harms way. One of those little good habits I have always tried to follow. ------------------------------------------------- Brent Tegler Fergus Ontario Canada Email: btegler@... ------------------------------------------

traderpro2003 · Post by **traderpro2003** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:34 am

Once I was riding with a hottie on back... We pulled to a stop. I was still in first/clutch-in when I was struck in the eye by her bikini malfunction. I popped the clutch...what a mess. Happened in a red light district. Still, I wouldn't change a thing. Hope this helps... --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "eddiebmauri" wrote:

> > The following question is about the KLR's clutch, but I preface it > with something that I was told a while back; I once had a BMW, a tech > informed that at red lights, I should not hold the clutch lever in, I > should put the BMW in neutral and let the clutch out. It was easier > on the clutch, and would cause less wear. So, does this matter in the > KLR? Is it overall a bad idea to hold the clutch lever in, like when > waiting at a red light? Or is it better to shift to neutral and let > the clutch out? > > Eddie (03' KLR - "la poderosa") >

Tim Gornall · Post by **Tim Gornall** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:52 pm

I always leave it in gear, and keep an eye on the car behind me. That way I can pull out of harms way quickly if need be. Never had a clutch problem with any of the bikes I've owned, including the vintage ones. Tim Posted by: "Jon Neet" birdmove@... Birdmove Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:17 pm (PDT) I never sit at a stop in gear on any motorcycle, or car for that matter. Sitting in gear with the clutch dissengaged will cause wear to whatever release mechanism the vehicle has. I also ride a 2007 Royal Enfield 500 Bullet Classic. It has a design basically from the 1950s, and the clutch will not stand up to sitting at stops in gear. If you do that, you will soon find that you won't be able to find neutral as the clutch will not totally disengage. I alsway stick it in neutral just before the stop.Ridden thusly, the bike will be able to do the neutral/1st gear shift smoothly and easily like a Japanese bike. The KLR clutch may well stand up to sitting in gear, but I choose to be in neutral. Jon in Puyallup, Wa. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

E.L. Green · Post by **E.L. Green** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:43 pm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jon Neet wrote:

> > I never sit at a stop in gear on any motorcycle, or car for that > matter. Sitting in gear with the clutch dissengaged will cause wear > to whatever release mechanism the vehicle has. I also ride a

As being hit from behind by a vehicle because you could not get the bike into 1st gear in time to get out of his way when he didn't stop. Personally, I prefer paying for throwout bearings every so often to paying hospital bills, but so it goes. I've already been in surgery once due to a motorcycle accident. If I can avoid it, I prefer to not undergo that painful experience again.

> but I choose to be in neutral.

It's a free country. You can also choose in many parts of the nation to ride without a helmet, jump off a bridge with a rubber band attached to you, and many other dangerous things. That does not, however, make it a good idea. -E

Tim Wakefield · Post by **Tim Wakefield** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:46 pm

I've had a clutch cable snap while waiting in gear. The bike lurched a few inches but stalled right away. I think you would have to have a handfull of throttle before you would risk launching out into an intersection Tim

----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Herr To: KLR650 Mailing List Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 7:27 PM Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Clutch In-or-Out at Red Lights? On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 15:52 -0400, Brent Tegler wrote: > Way back when I was told NOT to sit at a red light with my motorcycle in gear. The reason being the clutch cable could snap, unlikely but if it did it could launch the bike (and you) into harms way. One of those little good habits I have always tried to follow. > Just keep the other hand on your front brake. It is *easily* strong enough to keep the bike in place and kill the engine if the cable snaps. -- Doug Herr doug@... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

eddiebmauri · Post by **eddiebmauri** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:52 am

Yeah Right, I just had to test what some of you wrote; my KLR was in the garage, I cranked it up, put it in 1st gear, and let the clutch pop out, and BAM!, the beast catapulted clean-through the garage door, I now have a silhouette cut out (hole punched through) of a KLR and rider through the garage door. It looks like a cartoon cut out like when Wyle Coyote goes through a barn door! My wife is pist, I am all bandaged up, the neighbors are laughing, and the homeowners insurance adjuster is denying my claim, even my dog won't play with me no more. Luckily, the KLR is OK. I thank all of you who responded to my post in private and to the group. I got some great info from you all, again, thanks. Eddie (03' KBR - "la poderosa") --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Wakefield" wrote:

> > I've had a clutch cable snap while waiting in gear. The bike

lurched a few inches but stalled right away. I think you would have to have a handfull of throttle before you would risk launching out into an intersection

> > Tim > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Doug Herr > To: KLR650 Mailing List > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 7:27 PM > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Clutch In-or-Out at Red Lights? > > > On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 15:52 -0400, Brent Tegler wrote: > > Way back when I was told NOT to sit at a red light with my

motorcycle in gear. The reason being the clutch cable could snap, unlikely but if it did it could launch the bike (and you) into harms way. One of those little good habits I have always tried to follow.

> > > > Just keep the other hand on your front brake. It is *easily* strong > enough to keep the bike in place and kill the engine if the cable

snaps.

> > -- > Doug Herr > doug@... > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

Chris Norloff · Post by **Chris Norloff** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:37 am

Please post photos! Especially the Wile E. Coyote hole in the garage wall. Better get some genuine Acme Garage Repair materials for that.

Chris -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of eddiebmauri Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:53 AM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Clutch In-or-Out at Red Lights? Yeah Right, I just had to test what some of you wrote; my KLR was in the garage, I cranked it up, put it in 1st gear, and let the clutch pop out, and BAM!, the beast catapulted clean-through the garage door, I now have a silhouette cut out (hole punched through) of a KLR and rider through the garage door. It looks like a cartoon cut out like when Wyle Coyote goes through a barn door! My wife is pist, I am all bandaged up, the neighbors are laughing, and the homeowners insurance adjuster is denying my claim, even my dog won't play with me no more. Luckily, the KLR is OK. I thank all of you who responded to my post in private and to the group. I got some great info from you all, again, thanks. Eddie (03' KBR - "la poderosa") --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Wakefield" wrote:

> > I've had a clutch cable snap while waiting in gear. The bike

lurched a few inches but stalled right away. I think you would have to have a handfull of throttle before you would risk launching out into an intersection

> > Tim > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Doug Herr > To: KLR650 Mailing List > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 7:27 PM > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Clutch In-or-Out at Red Lights? > > > On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 15:52 -0400, Brent Tegler wrote: > > Way back when I was told NOT to sit at a red light with my

motorcycle in gear. The reason being the clutch cable could snap, unlikely but if it did it could launch the bike (and you) into harms way. One of those little good habits I have always tried to follow.

> > > > Just keep the other hand on your front brake. It is *easily* strong > enough to keep the bike in place and kill the engine if the cable

snaps.

> > -- > Doug Herr > doug@... > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

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mikeypep · Post by **mikeypep** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:48 pm

Every time I work on an engine I have extra bolts. I keep asking myself why the manufacturers put these extra bolts in there.--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Robert Waters wrote:

> > > > > > Why not give the company a call. I had to get some armor for my

jacket

> and they were very helpful. > > > Good advise. That is what I did. I have a Firstgear Kilimanjaro

coat. There is a wash for the coat (hand wash only) and then you follow with the waterproof stuff. Nikwax. Just put it in water, but not with the soap.

> > By the way. I took the pads out of my coat and now I have two left

over. I have looked and looked and cannot figure out where those two pads go. The coat now has elbo pads, back pads, and shoulder pads, which are in place--and I have those two pads that are left over. Anyone had this experience? Solution?

> > Robert Waters > NW ARkansas > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

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