any owners in savannah, ga?

[georgew@dnet.aunz.com]

On Thu, 12 May 2005 05:59:21 -0000, you wrote: [...] >It's physics folks, not Coriolis, not Areola, not magic. Wheelies on >shafties are for the most part bullshit fantasies for people without a >decent chain drive. (Concours and later Beemers excepted) If I might add my two cents to this urban legend... If the torque that's applied to the rear wheel hub is greater than the resistance generated by the mass of the bike (or car, truck or tractor) times the distance of the rear contact patch from said hub ("counter" torque?), then the front of the machine will lift. It doesn't matter whether the torque is applied through a shaft, a chain, a barge pole, the Coriolis effect or the fairies. The bikes(and cars, trucks and tractors)that lift their fronts are those with engine/transmission systems that can deliver torque to the drive hub(s)in excess of that required to propel the mass forward. The excess torque can do nothing except rotate the bike (or car, truck or tractor) around the hub. If the engine/transmission cannot deliver torque in that quantity, then the front of the bike (or car, truck or tractor) will, like that of a KLR ridden by an overweight, middle aged wannabe boy racer, stay firmly and irrevocably on the ground. Early beemers couldn't wheelie, but the reason has more to do with why a KLR has difficulty in this area than it has to do with the shaft drive. -- GW

[reddogguy1]

> Early beemers couldn't wheelie, but the reason has more to do with

why

> a KLR has difficulty in this area than it has to do with the shaft > drive. > > > -- > GW

I have no difficulty in this area on any KLR. Tony certainly does not have any difficulty. Want proof? http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/thad.champagne AT sb cglobal.net/my_photos later, thad

[georgew@dnet.aunz.com]

On Thu, 12 May 2005 15:18:32 -0000, you wrote:

>> Early beemers couldn't wheelie, but the reason has more to do with >why >> a KLR has difficulty in this area than it has to do with the shaft >> drive. >> >> >> -- >> GW > >I have no difficulty in this area on any KLR. Tony certainly does not >have any difficulty. Want proof? > >http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/thad.champagne AT sb >cglobal.net/my_photos >

The site won't let me in. I didn't say it couldn't be done, it can. It's difficult when the front is loaded up with a full tank, an overweight rider etc, that's all. My argument stands - the ability to raise the front is governed by whether or not the available torque exceeds that necessary to propel the bike forwards, not by how the torque is applied. -- GW

[reddogguy1]

cant post a link here, so after my last name type the "@..." , dont be defensive - just having fun, ps in the close up I was rather close to my drunk neighbor photographer who was leaning on my brick mail box, that is my oh-shit look, i cant wheelie with my mouth closed, the crown in the road draws me to side, only after i am at the balance point can i "steer" back to the center, it is way easier to wheelie sitting on the rear of the seat w/o a full tank of gas there is a landing strip on a friends farm I practice all the time, I started by doing the pop a wheelie thing, then progressed, very important to work the throttle and practice using the foot brake (over & over), once you arrive at the balance point you know it, my riding bud is really good, he can stay up in 4th, he rides his like a 4-wheeler and is not terribly concerned about crashing lemme see if it will link w/ quotes around it "http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/thad.champagne@.../my_photos" just copy and paste that in your browser w/o the quotes later, thad http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/thad.champagne AT sb cglobal.net/my_photos The site won't let me in. I didn't say it couldn't be done, it can.

[Mike Frey]

reddogguy1 wrote:

>lemme see if it will link w/ quotes around it > >"http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/thad.champagne@.../my_photos" > > >

Damn, I felt guilty about riding without my gear last night, and you have no helmet on! Caption #1 is an apt description. Those cute little girls in the 3rd and 4th pictures don't want to lose their dad, of that I am sure. Wear your helmet!!!!!

[georgew@dnet.aunz.com]

On Thu, 12 May 2005 16:40:19 -0000, you wrote:

>cant post a link here, so after my last name type >the "@..." , dont be defensive - just having fun, ps in the >close up I was rather close to my drunk neighbor photographer who was >leaning on my brick mail box, that is my oh-shit look, i cant wheelie >with my mouth closed, the crown in the road draws me to side, only >after i am at the balance point can i "steer" back to the center, it >is >way easier to wheelie sitting on the rear of the seat w/o a full tank >of gas > >there is a landing strip on a friends farm I practice all the time, I >started by doing the pop a wheelie thing, then progressed, very >important to work the throttle and practice using the foot brake >(over & over), once you arrive at the balance point you know it, my >riding bud is really good, he can stay up in 4th, he rides his like a >4-wheeler and is not terribly concerned about crashing > >lemme see if it will link w/ quotes around it > >"http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/thad.champagne@.../my_photos" > >just copy and paste that in your browser w/o the quotes

Hah - got it. Good shots - I would have a bigger 'oh shit' look if it was me, that's for sure. -- GW

[Michael Silverstein]

My shaft drive 1982 Yamaha XZ550 Vision [http://www.mindspring.com/~mssilverstein/motorcycles/xz550/%5d still wheelies in 1st gear without any effort beyond twisting the throttle. Mike A18

> -----Original Message----- > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dumbazz_650 > It's physics folks, not Coriolis, not Areola, not magic. > Wheelies on shafties are for the most part bullshit fantasies > for people without a decent chain drive. (Concours and later > Beemers excepted)

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[ron criswell]

Uh oh, .... this is disproving my Moreus Borielus Theory. More research will be needed. Maybe ..... just maybe I could get a guvment grant to do more research. Jennifer could be my assistant on this but she has gone to the great trail ride in the sky. I can still see her one blue eye and one green eye and get misty eyed myself. Criswell

On Thursday, May 12, 2005, at 06:36 PM, Michael Silverstein wrote: > My shaft drive 1982 Yamaha XZ550 Vision > [http://www.mindspring.com/~mssilverstein/motorcycles/xz550/%5d still > wheelies in 1st gear without any effort beyond twisting the throttle. > Mike A18 > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >> [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dumbazz_650 > >> It's physics folks, not Coriolis, not Areola, not magic. >> Wheelies on shafties are for the most part bullshit fantasies > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

[imke101]

Hi all, are there any KLR 650 folks in Savannah? I am a novice at tinkering, but would like to get to know my bike a bit better, and eventually do a doohickey upgrade with somebody who's a bit more experienced than I am. If there are a few of you: interested in a clinic? Cheers, Imke