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Bogdan Swider
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nklr fantastic dakar story..or i would have not even made it to

Post by Bogdan Swider » Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:32 pm

> > No need, I'm unsubscribing. > Thanks > CA Stu
Why ? I enjoyed your spirited rebuttal. I didn't think it was over the top. You simply thought it your duty to educate a lister a bit short on imagination. Steve somehow never learned that art and sport have a function far beyond their specific areas. They inspire the human spirit and that spills over to " practical " matters. That's why the ancient Greeks came up with the Olympics where - BTW - chariot racing was the most popular event. That's also why they made those incredible statues and wrote those wonderful plays. Least we can do is to continue the tradition. Bogdan
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Harry Seifert
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nklr fantastic dakar story..or i would have not even made it to

Post by Harry Seifert » Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:38 pm

I move that Steve H. be sent to his room without supper. All those in favor, say Aye...........all those opposed....tuff shitsky! I also move that Stu be made to write 20 times, in proper cursive, "I will not call Steve H. an S. Head". (although it may appear to most experienced hands that he is) You boys need to play nicely........can't you all just get along???????? Nuff said!! Hey Russ, will we see you on the 19th? Stu has an adventure planned down Chariot Canyon on the old Jackass Mail Route. Harry Seifert bseifert71@...
> [Original Message] > From: Russell Scott > To: Stuart Mumford > Cc: KListeRs DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > Date: 2/11/2005 12:13:11 PM > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Re: NKLR Fantastic Dakar Story..or I would
have not even made it to the START!
> > > Stu, why are you unsubscribing? Reason and intellect often don't work
when
> the adolescent mind kicks in. Sometimes only a hard jerk on their chain > gets their attention. Steve H. should be banned as well if that's the > criteria. He was personally attacking everybody who enjoys Dakar, and > respects the racers who attempt it. Obviously Steve has never raced, and > doesn't have a clue how hard it is. > > Russell > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stuart Mumford [mailto:s2mumford@...] > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 11:47 AM > To: Don Van Dyke; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com; > DSN_KLR650-owner@yahoogroups.com; Steve H. > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Re: NKLR Fantastic Dakar Story..or I would > have not even made it to the START! > > > > No need, I'm unsubscribing. > Thanks > CA Stu > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Don Van Dyke [mailto:Moto@...] > > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 8:03 PM > > To: Stuart Mumford; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com; > > DSN_KLR650-owner@yahoogroups.com; Steve H. > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Re: NKLR Fantastic Dakar Story..or I would > > have not even made it to the START! > > > > > > Does either the owner or moderator of this list enforce the rules? > > > > The following is from the list's main page, > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/. > > > > "Please adhere to the three following guidelines for the list: > > > > 1. NO personal attacks. Keep "opinions" as objective discussions..." > > > > If calling someone an "S. Head" is not a "personal attack" then I don't > > know what is. > > > > > > At 11:35 AM 2/10/2005 -0800, Stuart Mumford wrote: > > > > > > >Sermons over...back to me brewsky. > > > > > > > > > > >Maybe you've had enough, Steve. > > > > > > > >S. Disturber Steve > > > > > >I reckon that should read "S.Head Steve" > > > > > >Thanks > > >CA STu > > > > > > Don Van Dyke > > Sacramento, California > > Moto@... > > www.intellection.org > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at:
http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html
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Russell Scott
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nklr fantastic dakar story..or i would have not even made it to

Post by Russell Scott » Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:44 pm

I should be there. Sounds like a good warm up for Adelanto. I need some new rubber shoes for my rat bike. Think I'll get some Karoos this time. R -----Original Message----- From: Harry Seifert [mailto:bseifert71@...] Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 12:37 PM To: russell scott; Stuart Mumford Cc: KListeRs Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Re: NKLR Fantastic Dakar Story..or I would have not even made it to the START! I move that Steve H. be sent to his room without supper. All those in favor, say Aye...........all those opposed....tuff shitsky! I also move that Stu be made to write 20 times, in proper cursive, "I will not call Steve H. an S. Head". (although it may appear to most experienced hands that he is) You boys need to play nicely........can't you all just get along???????? Nuff said!! Hey Russ, will we see you on the 19th? Stu has an adventure planned down Chariot Canyon on the old Jackass Mail Route. Harry Seifert bseifert71@...
> [Original Message] > From: Russell Scott > To: Stuart Mumford > Cc: KListeRs DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > Date: 2/11/2005 12:13:11 PM > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Re: NKLR Fantastic Dakar Story..or I would
have not even made it to the START!
> > > Stu, why are you unsubscribing? Reason and intellect often don't work
when
> the adolescent mind kicks in. Sometimes only a hard jerk on their chain > gets their attention. Steve H. should be banned as well if that's the > criteria. He was personally attacking everybody who enjoys Dakar, and > respects the racers who attempt it. Obviously Steve has never raced, and > doesn't have a clue how hard it is. > > Russell > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stuart Mumford [mailto:s2mumford@...] > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 11:47 AM > To: Don Van Dyke; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com; > DSN_KLR650-owner@yahoogroups.com; Steve H. > Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Re: NKLR Fantastic Dakar Story..or I would > have not even made it to the START! > > > > No need, I'm unsubscribing. > Thanks > CA Stu > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Don Van Dyke [mailto:Moto@...] > > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 8:03 PM > > To: Stuart Mumford; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com; > > DSN_KLR650-owner@yahoogroups.com; Steve H. > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Re: NKLR Fantastic Dakar Story..or I would > > have not even made it to the START! > > > > > > Does either the owner or moderator of this list enforce the rules? > > > > The following is from the list's main page, > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/. > > > > "Please adhere to the three following guidelines for the list: > > > > 1. NO personal attacks. Keep "opinions" as objective discussions..." > > > > If calling someone an "S. Head" is not a "personal attack" then I don't > > know what is. > > > > > > At 11:35 AM 2/10/2005 -0800, Stuart Mumford wrote: > > > > > > >Sermons over...back to me brewsky. > > > > > > > > > > >Maybe you've had enough, Steve. > > > > > > > >S. Disturber Steve > > > > > >I reckon that should read "S.Head Steve" > > > > > >Thanks > > >CA STu > > > > > > Don Van Dyke > > Sacramento, California > > Moto@... > > www.intellection.org > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at:
http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html
> List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
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russell_dixon@bd.com
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Post by russell_dixon@bd.com » Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:58 pm

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Steve H.
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Post by Steve H. » Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:00 pm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Bogdan Swider wrote:
> > > > No need, I'm unsubscribing. > > Thanks > > CA Stu > > Why ? I enjoyed your spirited rebuttal. I didn't think it was over
the top.
> You simply thought it your duty to educate a lister a bit short on > imagination. Steve somehow never learned that art and sport have
a function
> far beyond their specific areas. They inspire the human spirit and
that
> spills over to " practical " matters. That's why the ancient
Greeks came up
> with the Olympics where - BTW - chariot racing was the most
popular event.
> That's also why they made those incredible statues and wrote those
wonderful
> plays. Least we can do is to continue the tradition. > > Bogdan
Fair enough comment. I don't know why he would unsubscribe. My only retort is that I find it very odd that a difference of opinion on this list seems to degenerate to this level. I thought a forum was a place to express views...any views ? I don't expect people to agree with me...and actually enjoy a good discussion. I doubt I know any more about what you have learned or not learned, than you me. I live in a world full of fake reality and fake role models. Pardon me for having a contrary opinion. But I won't unsubscribe. All you have to do is hit delete when, as Stu tells me, my "drivel" appears. Now to lengthen my imagination ! Steve
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Kathleen Tyre
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nklr fantastic dakar story..or i would have not even made it to

Post by Kathleen Tyre » Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:04 pm

Stu, Don't do it. It's not allowed. You are too integral a part of this list to leave. Kathleen '92 Yamaha TDM '99 Kawa KLR -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Mumford [mailto:s2mumford@...] Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 11:47 AM To: Don Van Dyke; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com; DSN_KLR650-owner@yahoogroups.com; Steve H. Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Re: NKLR Fantastic Dakar Story..or I would have not even made it to the START! No need, I'm unsubscribing. Thanks CA Stu
> -----Original Message----- > From: Don Van Dyke [mailto:Moto@...] > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 8:03 PM > To: Stuart Mumford; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com; > DSN_KLR650-owner@yahoogroups.com; Steve H. > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Re: NKLR Fantastic Dakar Story..or I > would have not even made it to the START! > > > Does either the owner or moderator of this list enforce the rules? > > The following is from the list's main page, > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/. > > "Please adhere to the three following guidelines for the list: > > 1. NO personal attacks. Keep "opinions" as objective discussions..." > > If calling someone an "S. Head" is not a "personal attack" then I > don't know what is. > > > At 11:35 AM 2/10/2005 -0800, Stuart Mumford wrote: > > > > >Sermons over...back to me brewsky. > > > > > > > >Maybe you've had enough, Steve. > > > > > >S. Disturber Steve > > > >I reckon that should read "S.Head Steve" > > > >Thanks > >CA STu > > > Don Van Dyke > Sacramento, California > Moto@... > www.intellection.org > > >
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sdheaslet
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Post by sdheaslet » Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:24 pm

As a long-time lurker who used to frequent the discussions on the list in the late 1990's and onward, I can understand CA Stu's apparent position. I have never met Mr. CA Stu Mumford in person, having missed him a time or two at Moab, but from what I know he's an insightful man with a global perspective. Over the years he has made me laugh til I cried, and offered technical and philosophical perspectives that no one else could. If Stu stops participating, then he would go the way of Gino Pokluda, Sir Kurt Simpson, Redondo Ron and a number of others who were the founding members and brilliant forces behind this most unusual forum. I hope Stu sticks around, but from my own experience would understand why he might think there are other ways to spend his time. Stuart aka "Fireball" Cedar, Michigan
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Kathleen Tyre" wrote: > > > Stu, > Don't do it. It's not allowed. > You are too integral a part of this list to leave. > Kathleen > '92 Yamaha TDM > '99 Kawa KLR >
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Russell Scott
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Post by Russell Scott » Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:37 pm

My official Steve retort. If you want to harangue about athletes getting too much attention, lets start with the NBA, MLB, and NFL. When was the last time anybody got killed in any of these pro sports. And look at how much they get paid, and they don't even risk their lives. The coverage of the Super Bowl, ridiculous. In other words, if your going to shoot somebody down, at least aim it at the right target. Russell -----Original Message----- From: Steve H. [mailto:shersant2003@...] Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 3:00 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR Fantastic Dakar Story..or I would have not even made it to the START! --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Bogdan Swider wrote:
> > > > No need, I'm unsubscribing. > > Thanks > > CA Stu > > Why ? I enjoyed your spirited rebuttal. I didn't think it was over
the top.
> You simply thought it your duty to educate a lister a bit short on > imagination. Steve somehow never learned that art and sport have
a function
> far beyond their specific areas. They inspire the human spirit and
that
> spills over to " practical " matters. That's why the ancient
Greeks came up
> with the Olympics where - BTW - chariot racing was the most
popular event.
> That's also why they made those incredible statues and wrote those
wonderful
> plays. Least we can do is to continue the tradition. > > Bogdan
Fair enough comment. I don't know why he would unsubscribe. My only retort is that I find it very odd that a difference of opinion on this list seems to degenerate to this level. I thought a forum was a place to express views...any views ? I don't expect people to agree with me...and actually enjoy a good discussion. I doubt I know any more about what you have learned or not learned, than you me. I live in a world full of fake reality and fake role models. Pardon me for having a contrary opinion. But I won't unsubscribe. All you have to do is hit delete when, as Stu tells me, my "drivel" appears. Now to lengthen my imagination ! Steve Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Yahoo! Groups Links
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Jim
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Post by Jim » Fri Feb 11, 2005 11:56 pm

Yea right....he'll log on as Jim Sherlock from now on. --Jim A-15
> No need, I'm unsubscribing. > Thanks > CA Stu
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monahanwb
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Post by monahanwb » Sat Feb 12, 2005 12:19 am

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "sdheaslet" wrote:
> > As a long-time lurker who used to frequent the discussions on the
list
> in the late 1990's and onward, I can understand CA Stu's apparent > position.
Stuart aka "Fireball"
> Cedar, Michigan
Hear hear, down with drivel. Another long time lister-ine Backroad Bill no klr, just a crappy ol 950 Adventure and a brand new Moto Guzzi
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