stock valve shims nklr

[Zachariah Mully]

On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 16:48, Richard Sanders wrote:

> Not quite true, the helicoil is naturally a larger diameter than the > original bolt & thus has more bearing surface on the softer base > material.

Okay but I've stripped out 10mm bolts as well. So I know I could easily strip out helicoils. Short building a brace for the footpegs, nothing is a permanent solution. -- Z DC A5X A12X

[W.V. Doran]

I just helicoiled three of four. Very easy job . Drilled the bolt heads, safety wired and blue loctite. Torqued to 13 ft lbs. 350 miles banging in the mountains east of Phoenix...no problems --- rsanders30117 wrote: The best solution is to install a repair helicoil.

> Although it > hasn't happened to me yet, this seems to been a > common breakage. > Maybe something to do prior to a world trip in that > the helicoil is > stronger than the original thread.

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[tim dermody]

Interesting. I read all the replies before having my KLRMID (KLR Modification Impulse Disease) kick in. Hadn't even gotten changed out of my uniform before I was on the floor with a 12mm socket taking the right peg and mount off to see what's up in there. True, with the funky box those two welded nuts are hiding in firmly attached to the frame, it would be a neat trick indeed to get new nuts in there to back up the stripped welded nuts. KLRMID Answer: Use die grinder to remove rearward facing plate on said boxs to gain access to backside of the two welded-in nuts. Use good quality locknuts (Nylock?) behind two new, longer bolts to secure the foot bolt bracket. Possible problems: 1) Not enough room in the box to squeez two locking nuts (with locktight red or blue in there and no way of holding them when tightening the required new longer bolts. Answer: Grind new nuts thiner on grinding wheel to get them in there and use screwdriver to hold them when tightening the bolt. 2)New bolts for these two new nuts have to be long enough to get all the way through the nuts without bottoming out against the frame. Answer: Again, grind bolts to proper length. Recommendation: Injest copious amounts of KLRMID prescribed medications of your choice and throw the above idea in the trash heap for now. Now, with a clear head and KLRMID symptoms reduced to a minor annoying buzz in your head, purchase an appropriate Helicoil kit and drill them holes out and use the Helicoils. By increasing the diameter of the hole in the cheap KLR metal to insert the Helicoils, you have increased your contact area between the Helicoils and the cheap KLR metal. You have a strong bond there. Worried still? Buy better grade bolts (drilled for safety wireing?) than the stockers and use them in the Helicoils with Locktite. I've been using Helicoils to fix others, and my own screw-ups for years. You can trust them if you follow the directions and drill the correct sized hole to accept them. Heck, use Locktite, lock washers, and drill for safety wires too if you're that paranoid. I probably will when I lose a peg someday. Anyway...some answers mentioned their concerns over helicoils. I would use them without thinking twice. If after using them and you still have problems, get out that die grinder and go to town opening up that box, grinding off the nuts on the inside of the box, and then using nuts and bolts in them holes. That was fun. Hope you get a peg back on soon and get back in the wind and mud soon. Ride safe. Tim --- monahanwb wrote:

> I got down the road about ten miles today on my > first commute from my > new home in the mountains, when the right footpeg > came off with its > bracket. Stripped female thread in bracket is the > problem. I am > thinking of drilling these out tonight and sticking > in new nuts. > Anyone have any experience with this fix? > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at > www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris > Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > >

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[rsanders30117]

If an strength increase is most important, I would consider stepping up to a "-NC thread & a high strength flange head fastener. NC is a lager thread than metric corse which gives it more strength. --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Zachariah Mully wrote:

> On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 16:48, Richard Sanders wrote: > > Not quite true, the helicoil is naturally a larger diameter than

the

> > original bolt & thus has more bearing surface on the softer base > > material. > > Okay but I've stripped out 10mm bolts as well. So I know I could

easily

> strip out helicoils. Short building a brace for the footpegs,

nothing is

> a permanent solution. > > -- > Z > DC > A5X > A12X

[W.V. Doran]

I would definitely recommend drilling the bolt heads. Safety wire and blue Loctite them. 13 ftlbs torque max. WVD --- tim dermody wrote:

> > Recommendation: Injest copious amounts of KLRMID > prescribed medications of your choice and throw the > above idea in the trash heap for now. Now, with a > clear head and KLRMID symptoms reduced to a minor > annoying buzz in your head, purchase an appropriate > Helicoil kit and drill them holes out and use the > Helicoils. > > By increasing the diameter of the hole in the cheap > KLR metal to insert the Helicoils, you have > increased > your contact area between the Helicoils and the > cheap > KLR metal. You have a strong bond there. Worried > still? Buy better grade bolts (drilled for safety > wireing?) than the stockers and use them in the > Helicoils with Locktite. > > I've been using Helicoils to fix others, and my own > screw-ups for years. You can trust them if you > follow > the directions and drill the correct sized hole to > accept them. Heck, use Locktite, lock washers, and > drill for safety wires too if you're that paranoid.

--- tim dermody wrote:

> > Interesting. I read all the replies before having > my > KLRMID (KLR Modification Impulse Disease) kick in. > Hadn't even gotten changed out of my uniform before > I > was on the floor with a 12mm socket taking the right > peg and mount off to see what's up in there. > > True, with the funky box those two welded nuts are > hiding in firmly attached to the frame, it would be > a > neat trick indeed to get new nuts in there to back > up > the stripped welded nuts. > > KLRMID Answer: Use die grinder to remove rearward > facing plate on said boxs to gain access to backside > of the two welded-in nuts. Use good quality > locknuts > (Nylock?) behind two new, longer bolts to secure the > foot bolt bracket. > > Possible problems: > 1) Not enough room in the box to squeez two locking > nuts (with locktight red or blue in there and no way > of holding them when tightening the required new > longer bolts. Answer: Grind new nuts thiner on > grinding wheel to get them in there and use > screwdriver to hold them when tightening the bolt. > 2)New bolts for these two new nuts have to be long > enough to get all the way through the nuts without > bottoming out against the frame. Answer: Again, > grind > bolts to proper length. > > Recommendation: Injest copious amounts of KLRMID > prescribed medications of your choice and throw the > above idea in the trash heap for now. Now, with a > clear head and KLRMID symptoms reduced to a minor > annoying buzz in your head, purchase an appropriate > Helicoil kit and drill them holes out and use the > Helicoils. > > By increasing the diameter of the hole in the cheap > KLR metal to insert the Helicoils, you have > increased > your contact area between the Helicoils and the > cheap > KLR metal. You have a strong bond there. Worried > still? Buy better grade bolts (drilled for safety > wireing?) than the stockers and use them in the > Helicoils with Locktite. > > I've been using Helicoils to fix others, and my own > screw-ups for years. You can trust them if you > follow > the directions and drill the correct sized hole to > accept them. Heck, use Locktite, lock washers, and > drill for safety wires too if you're that paranoid. > I > probably will when I lose a peg someday. > > Anyway...some answers mentioned their concerns over > helicoils. I would use them without thinking twice. > > If after using them and you still have problems, get > out that die grinder and go to town opening up that > box, grinding off the nuts on the inside of the box, > and then using nuts and bolts in them holes. > > That was fun. Hope you get a peg back on soon and > get > back in the wind and mud soon. Ride safe. > > Tim > > > --- monahanwb wrote: > > > I got down the road about ten miles today on my > > first commute from my > > new home in the mountains, when the right footpeg > > came off with its > > bracket. Stripped female thread in bracket is the > > problem. I am > > thinking of drilling these out tonight and > sticking > > in new nuts. > > Anyone have any experience with this fix? > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at > > www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris > > Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile > phone. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at > www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris > Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > >

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[Bogdan Swider]

> My local dealer wanted $12 for a shim, that's a couple of pitchers. > --Jim > A-15 >

And a pitcher is worth a thousand words. Bogdan