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[klxmoto]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., RM wrote:

> > Is there any future for the machinist trade? > time.

I've often wondered that myself. Here's a good web site to start researching, its the Department of Labor, Occupational Handbook. Between that and feedback from real live machinists you should get a pretty good idea of the potential. http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos223.htm From the machinist section: "Significant Points Machinists learn in apprenticeship programs, informally on the job, and in high schools, vocational schools, or community or technical colleges. Many entrants previously have worked as machine setters, operators, or tenders. Job opportunities are expected to be excellent." From what I've seen in my limited experience working in a GM-Delco battery plant while I was in college, the machinist didn't get much respect, or not as much as I would have expected. But, they definetely got more respect then us walking lead-dust filters on the assembly line. Actually, no one got much in the way of respect in that place, although we did get monthly blood tests to moniter out blood lead levels - and we always passed - how about that? :^) I guess like anything else, it depends on the company and the management. I'd imagine a machinist in a small independent shop, or a racing fabrication shop would get much more respect (& pay), especially if they could assist in design work. I'm interested in learning about machining too (and welding, and painting, and design - all the restoration skills). And it seems that over in the UK there are a lot of hobby machinists, much more then over here it seems. Ed

[RM]

On Sat, 27 Jul 2002, swede1037 wrote:

>Don't rest on your IT experience to think you'll slide into the CNC >world. Computer skills are helpful, but can get in the way. I've seen >someone with no experience with computers excel on CNC and ones with >computer experience not be able to understand the programming. More >handy is geometry, trigonometry, and an ability to visualize the >finished product and how to get the stock to that point.

Would you believe that I've already had a fair bit of contact with CNC programming? Turn the dial on the way-back machine to 1989. Amada Aries 245 turret punch and an RG80 brake-press. Did Amada go Tango Uniform? I can't find a site for them... The computer guy might have had trouble with the CNC programming because the language is/was so damned crude. I remember some of it, and how much more sophisticated the built-in BASIC on a Commodore 64 was.

[swede1037]

Hey, works for me. Just keep your X,Z,Y,M,G,S,F,C's in order, and remember that those not "in the know" will be the only ones that look at you funny as you make hand gestures while reading programs. Amada may have been absorbed by someone else, dunno. Swede

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., RM wrote: > Would you believe that I've already had a fair bit of contact with CNC > programming? Turn the dial on the way-back machine to 1989. Amada Aries > 245 turret punch and an RG80 brake-press. Did Amada go Tango Uniform? I > can't find a site for them... > > The computer guy might have had trouble with the CNC programming because > the language is/was so damned crude. I remember some of it, and how much > more sophisticated the built-in BASIC on a Commodore 64 was.

[Mark McCoy]

If you have an IT background it might be a great combination. More and more machining is controlled by CNC machines and many shops have more requirement for networking and other IT related tasks. Mark McCoy

----- Original Message ----- From: "RM" To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 7:17 PM Subject: [DSN_klr650] NKLR - Machinist Career? > > Is there any future for the machinist trade? > > I just found out that I might qualify for state-subsidized machinist > training. Never been thrilled about the trade but it could be interesting > if only I knew more about it. The IT job market doesn't seem to be > recovering like the rest of the labor market so it might be time to bail > out (for now). > > Is there any kind of real demand for machinists (excluding the ones making > doohickeys)? > > RM > > PS. If I enroll, I promise to make nothing but KLR parts during my lab > time. > > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.xmission.com/~dkenison/cgi/lwgate.cgi/KLR650/archives/ > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

[gpokluda]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., RM wrote:

> > Is there any future for the machinist trade? > > I just found out that I might qualify for state-subsidized machinist > training. Never been thrilled about the trade but it could be

interesting

> if only I knew more about it.

Not sure about that trade, but I do know that plumbing as a trade is very good. My nephew, who was visiting this weekend went to plumbers trade school. As an industrial plumber, he is earning $60+K with less than 2 years experience and could possibly move up another 10K within the year. The downside is that is was highly pressured to join a Union which he hates. Unions are just short of organized crime in my opinion and they are rampant in the labor world. Gino

[Conall O'Brien]

Jim, you mentioned a GSXR1300 in standard trim. Yamaha has the XJR1300 standard equipped stock with ohlins shocks for sale in Europe now. FJR1300 in standard trim. kawi has the ZRX-S 1200 with fairing. All the models are morphing. Don't think the XJR is in the states yet. http://www.yamaha-motor-europe.com/

>From: "jimsherlock" >To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> >Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] NKLR: 0 down, 0 interest >Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:02:49 -0500 > > >Perhaps because they've been "giving" them away. Two buddies bought >2002's >with 0 down, 0 percent financing, been riding all season and haven't paid a >nickel...yet. >Tell your friends that they will be hating it if they don't pay those off >early. The note on those bikes will still accrue interest until the >regularly scheduled payment start. They could find themselves with a very >expensive KLR. I almost got pulled into one of those deals on a Suzuki >GSXR1300R. What can I say, I'm addicted to speed and power. Luckily, the >bike didn't fit me very well, so I got to pass it up. I wish I could, but >my >body could not take it. Now if they will build one of those in standard >clothes and standard prices and I'll be all over it. > >Jim >Cedar Creek, Texas >

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