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Zachariah Mully
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bead won't seat

Post by Zachariah Mully » Fri Feb 22, 2002 8:09 am

That depends on how desperate you are... I couldn't get my K270 3.25 seated properly either, so I said f*** it and then went on a three day trip to NJ for a DS ride. I had hoped that some off-road riding with low-air pressures would help seat it, but no go. So after having ridden almost 500 miles that weekend, I got it seated the next day with a friends air-compressor. The gas-station ones don't have the volume necessary. I didn't have a problem on the highway, but I was heavily loaded and didn't go above 80mph. Z SE DC
On Fri, 2002-02-22 at 00:13, Devon Jarvis wrote: > NO, you shouldn't ride it. It won't just unseat if the bead is properly > seated in the first place. > > Forget soapy water, use straight dishwashing soap. Make sure the rim and the > bead are liberally coated. 75psi should have seated it, perhas a lot lower. > I think I seated my 3.25" kenda at less than 50. You can also bounce the > tire on the ground, that helps seat the bead sometimes. > > Devon > A15 > > dreastman wrote: > > > I replaced my stock front tire tonigh with a k270 3.00. This is my > > first time changing a MC tire. Everything went pretty smoothly but I > > couldn't seem to get the tire to seat. I used soapy water on the

Devon Jarvis
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bead won't seat

Post by Devon Jarvis » Fri Feb 22, 2002 9:08 am

I have used (tried to use) CO2 catridges to inflate a tire and seat it. They don't have enough pressure, and you need 4-5 to get the rear tire inflated from flat. You don't want to find this out trailside. I stopped carrying them because I realized they are nearly useless, except for adjusting inflation. A bike pump works fine. Devon dooden wrote:
>
snip or get the small CO2 type, for the
> tool kit, think I have seen them listed under $30, CO2 carts are easy > to carry and avail. just about any town with a Wal-Mart. > > Again just my $.02 > > Duden > >

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bead won't seat

Post by Devon Jarvis » Fri Feb 22, 2002 9:11 am

The safety issue is not necessarily bad handling or vibration, you can get both with some mud stuck on the rim. The real problem is that if you get a puncture while riding on a tire that isn't seated properly, it will come off the rim immediately and throw your ass down on the road. Perhaps in front of a truck. Devon Zachariah Mully wrote:
> > That depends on how desperate you are... I couldn't get my K270 3.25 > seated properly either, so I said f*** it and then went on a three day > trip to NJ for a DS ride. I had hoped that some off-road riding with > low-air pressures would help seat it, but no go. So after having ridden > almost 500 miles that weekend, I got it seated the next day with a > friends air-compressor. The gas-station ones don't have the volume > necessary. I didn't have a problem on the highway, but I was heavily > loaded and didn't go above 80mph. > > Z > SE DC > > On Fri, 2002-02-22 at 00:13, Devon Jarvis wrote: > > NO, you shouldn't ride it. It won't just unseat if the bead is properly > > seated in the first place. > >

Jack Tollett
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bead won't seat

Post by Jack Tollett » Fri Feb 22, 2002 9:33 am

Imagine my surprise when I found this thread wasn't about seat covers in New York City cabs.

benny screws
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bead won't seat

Post by benny screws » Fri Feb 22, 2002 10:03 am

My local tire man uses a shot of ether and a match. It seats that puppy just fine. And believe me, you will here the pop. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

dooden
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Post by dooden » Fri Feb 22, 2002 11:06 am

Never knowing the amount of pressure in them CO2 carts, I just kinda assumed they were really high PSI, which would give alot of volume at 30~45 psi, reckon I was wrong. Still seems like a handy little device if your a air pressure changer like some here seem to adjust all the time. Again I offer a refund of my $.02 worth. Duden
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., Devon Jarvis wrote: > I have used (tried to use) CO2 catridges to inflate a tire and seat it. > They don't have enough pressure, and you need 4-5 to get the rear tire > inflated from flat. You don't want to find this out trailside. > > I stopped carrying them because I realized they are nearly useless, > except for adjusting inflation. A bike pump works fine. > > Devon > > dooden wrote: > > > snip > > or get the small CO2 type, for the > > tool kit, think I have seen them listed under $30, CO2 carts are easy > > to carry and avail. just about any town with a Wal-Mart. > > > > Again just my $.02 > > > > Duden > > > >

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Post by Devon Jarvis » Fri Feb 22, 2002 2:06 pm

CO2 inflators are great- especially for airing back up at the end of a trail ride, when you're exhausted and don't want to use the hand pump. And they are high PSI, but only in that tiny little container. The sheer difference in volume means that you would need unsafe pressures in the little cylinder to get a meaningful volume of gas at tire pressures. Just don't count on them when fixing flats. Devon dooden wrote:
> > Never knowing the amount of pressure in them CO2 carts, I just kinda > assumed they were really high PSI, which would give alot of volume at > 30~45 psi, reckon I was wrong. > > Still seems like a handy little device if your a air pressure changer > like some here seem to adjust all the time. > > Again I offer a refund of my $.02 worth. > > Duden > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., Devon Jarvis wrote: > > I have used (tried to use) CO2 catridges to inflate a tire and seat > it. > > They don't have enough pressure, and you need 4-5 to get the rear > tire > > inflated from flat. You don't want to find this out trailside. > > > > I stopped carrying them because I realized they are nearly useless, > > except for adjusting inflation. A bike pump works fine. > > > > Devon > > > > dooden wrote: > > > > > snip > > > > or get the small CO2 type, for the > > > tool kit, think I have seen them listed under $30, CO2 carts are > easy > > > to carry and avail. just about any town with a Wal-Mart. > > > > > > Again just my $.02 > > > > > > Duden > > > > > > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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bead won't seat

Post by randyr9606@aol.com » Fri Feb 22, 2002 10:18 pm

I have found that cleaning the seating surface very well with a wire brush each time you change the tire, a light coating of dishwashing soap on tire bead and the rim will help. Should seat the bead about 50 psi. Good Luck Randy in MS COG 4747 '90 Concours '98 KLR [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

monahanwb
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water wetter / lean = hot?? nklr

Post by monahanwb » Sat Feb 23, 2002 8:54 am

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Walter Lesnowich" wrote:
> > Walt you have lots of experience. Do lean woman run hotter ? > > > > Bogdan > > > > It must be true. Only lean women light my candle.
You're supposed to take their temperature. That's what your thermometer is for. It's right there, in your hand.

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