motorcycle/atv ramps

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snowcrash007
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valve cover bolt question

Post by snowcrash007 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:48 am

Little paranoid about striping the bolts. The manual says 71 in pounds but I only did 50 in pounds. Is that enough to keep it snug? Crash

Jeff Saline
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valve cover bolt question

Post by Jeff Saline » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:12 am

On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:48:11 -0000 "snowcrash007" writes:
> Little paranoid about striping the bolts. The manual says 71 in > pounds but I only did 50 in pounds. > > Is that enough to keep it snug? > > > Crash
<><><><><><> <><><><><><> Crash, That might hold. Why not try 55 in lbs as suggested by the KLR big guns. Make sure to back them off a little bit (1/8 of a turn) and then torque them. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 . . ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4f5de82272e941e26f4ast03vuc

Kevin Powers
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valve cover bolt question

Post by Kevin Powers » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:07 am

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 6:48 AM, snowcrash007 wrote:
> ** > > > Little paranoid about striping the bolts. The manual says 71 in pounds but > I only did 50 in pounds. > > Is that enough to keep it snug? > > Crash > > I wouldn't worry about stripping them. Over torqued valve cover bolts > tend to snap. DAMHIK. >
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Jeffrey
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valve cover bolt question

Post by Jeffrey » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:35 am

I have stripped em even using a 1/4 inch/inch pound torque wrench; doing it according to the book. Be ready to do a heli-coil; it is a fact of life. Get the straightest shot you can on each bolt. A 1/4 inch wobble extension might help esp. on one bolt but according to the purists a wobble extension won't give you a true torque reading. I now torque em to 50 inch lbs then run it through a warm up cool down cycle. Then I take a closed end angled wrench and just hand torque em a hair more. J#3

Jud
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valve cover bolt question

Post by Jud » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:24 am

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote:
> That might hold. Why not try 55 in lbs as suggested by the KLR big guns. > Make sure to back them off a little bit (1/8 of a turn) and then torque > them.
No torque wrench necessary. Just tighten until they start to strip, then back off an eighth turn.

RobertWichert
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motorcycle/atv ramps

Post by RobertWichert » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:26 pm

I am batting .500 on riding up a short narrow ramp into a 3/4 ton pickup. First time, surprisingly easy. Second time, fall off. Third time, make it but dent the bed and cab. Haven't tried it since. Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================
On 3/13/2012 1:34 PM, billshel2003 wrote: > > Thanks to all that have replied to this post, I appreciate your input. > I don't know anyone using ramps so I'm trying to figure it out on my > own. I did a lot of looking on the net, too. With my tailgate so high > at around 39" - the truck being a 1 ton - I think I need longer ramps, > 8 ft. I can't always count on finding a low spot to get the rear > wheels into. I'll probably use the ramps most often for the ATV, which > weighs over 500 lbs, I believe, and then with me, gear, etc., I don't > trust using 2x framing lumber for ramps. I think I settled on getting > 2 single Black Widow extra wide ramps on the Discount Ramps site which > are 17" wide and 8 ft long, and they fold in half. Or, AllRamps site > has UTV 8 ft by 17" wide ramps, folding. Both aluminum. Both are not > terribly pricey for what you get. I can separate the ramps for the ATV > wheel spacing, and use them for the bikes by walking up/down one with > the bike on the other - plenty wide enough to slowly feathe r the > throttle and use front brake to keep things under control - in theory... > > Thanks again, Bill > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > , "billshel2003" > wrote: > > > > I need a ramp(s) to load/unload my ATV and small to mid-size dirt > bikes in a 1 ton pick up, and sometimes use it for the KLR. The > tailgate height is approximately 39" with the truck unloaded, so what > about ramp length? - I assume I need at least the 80 to 90" length?. > Also, I know there are bi-fold, tri-fold, narrow single ramps, etc., > rung spacing vs. smoother surface? I like the idea of being able to > store the single folding ramps inside the truck to help prevent theft. > I would also like to be able to use the ramp for my KLR, but while > alone can I (or do you?) ride the KLR up a single wide 12" ramp into > the truck bed? I guess the folding would work better for that but then > you can't store that style in the truck, right? - can you clamp two > single wides together? Help! > > > > Bill > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

SM
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valve cover bolt question

Post by SM » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:06 pm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jud" wrote:
> > No torque wrench necessary. Just tighten until they start to strip, then back off an eighth turn. >
This is bad advice! I tighten mine to 12 kiloton-parsecs. Wait, that is not true. I tighten mine sequentially, usually run them all to "snug" with just a ratchet and finish them off to factory spec. with my inch pound torque wrench. The guys that strip them usually did so because they misread "inch pounds" as "foot pounds". Big difference. :-) Thanks CA Stu

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