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[Craig Kahler]

I'm in need of a new rear tire. I try to avoid stuff made in China. I heard Kenda is made in Korea and Shinko is made in China. Is this correct. Thanks Craig [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[david zawadzki]

Made in Korea is good. I wouldn't recommend anything made in china if you want reliability. -David Z mobile: 646.267.1109 -please download our free single www.thevanguardband.com

On Feb 14, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Craig Kahler wrote: > I'm in need of a new rear tire. I try to avoid stuff made in China. I heard Kenda is made in Korea and Shinko is made in China. Is this correct. > Thanks > Craig > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jud]

I think that's right. I don't recommend Kendas, though, as increased demand will only drive the price up farther. I liked them better when you could get a set for the KLR for less than $70.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Craig Kahler wrote: > > I'm in need of a new rear tire. I try to avoid stuff made in China. I heard Kenda is made in Korea and Shinko is made in China. Is this correct. > Thanks > Craig > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[Jeff Khoury]

My brother had the Shinko 244s. They were good tires. Handle like a 270 in the dirt and not as squirrely on the street in turns. They'll throw knobs if you like to cruise over 80mph or so for long distances though. Great tire for the money.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jud" To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 3:54:43 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Kenda 270 V Shinko 244 I think that's right. I don't recommend Kendas, though, as increased demand will only drive the price up farther. I liked them better when you could get a set for the KLR for less than $70. --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com , Craig Kahler wrote: > > I'm in need of a new rear tire. I try to avoid stuff made in China. I heard Kenda is made in Korea and Shinko is made in China. Is this correct. > Thanks > Craig > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[ron criswell]

I have to laugh about the China comment. I had a $200 Harbor Freight band saw for wood working (made of course in China). I thought I would step up and buy a more trick band saw at Woodcraft spending $750. As I was finalizing the deal, I told the Woodcraft guy I was stepping up from my cheapo Harbor Freight Chinese made band saw. He laughed and said they are all made in China these days except one. My new one was made in China and it works very well. That said....I trust my $25 Harbor Freight torque wrench more than my $100 American one. Wasn't the trade agreement with China supposed to benefit us more because of he vast population in China wanting Amercun stuff? I think we do sell them quite a bit of Coca-cola, iPods (made there...heh) and Buicks (probably also made there),,,,,,but hey, they love Buicks.....thank God somebody does. Criswell Sent from my iPad

On Feb 14, 2012, at 5:40 PM, David Zawadzki wrote: > Made in Korea is good. I wouldn't recommend anything made in china if you want reliability. > > -David Z > mobile: 646.267.1109 > > -please download our free single > www.thevanguardband.com > > On Feb 14, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Craig Kahler wrote: > > > I'm in need of a new rear tire. I try to avoid stuff made in China. I heard Kenda is made in Korea and Shinko is made in China. Is this correct. > > Thanks > > Craig > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jeff Khoury]

There are some very nice things made in China; There is absolute garbage made there as well. The good stuff is made when a foreign (to them) company comes over with a design and either: a) trains the workers and supervises the production of the product. b) continually rejects production samples until they get it right. The stuff where they do their own engineering and production is crap 90+% of the time. That is my experience with them, and the experience of some of my colleagues. -Jeff Khoury

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Criswell" To: "David Zawadzki" Cc: "Craig Kahler" , "klr" dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 5:33:35 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Kenda 270 V Shinko 244 I have to laugh about the China comment. I had a $200 Harbor Freight band saw for wood working (made of course in China). I thought I would step up and buy a more trick band saw at Woodcraft spending $750. As I was finalizing the deal, I told the Woodcraft guy I was stepping up from my cheapo Harbor Freight Chinese made band saw. He laughed and said they are all made in China these days except one. My new one was made in China and it works very well. That said....I trust my $25 Harbor Freight torque wrench more than my $100 American one. Wasn't the trade agreement with China supposed to benefit us more because of he vast population in China wanting Amercun stuff? I think we do sell them quite a bit of Coca-cola, iPods (made there...heh) and Buicks (probably also made there),,,,,,but hey, they love Buicks.....thank God somebody does. Criswell Sent from my iPad On Feb 14, 2012, at 5:40 PM, David Zawadzki < fordavidz@... > wrote: > Made in Korea is good. I wouldn't recommend anything made in china if you want reliability. > > -David Z > mobile: 646.267.1109 > > -please download our free single > www.thevanguardband.com > > On Feb 14, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Craig Kahler < ckahleer@... > wrote: > > > I'm in need of a new rear tire. I try to avoid stuff made in China. I heard Kenda is made in Korea and Shinko is made in China. Is this correct. > > Thanks > > Craig > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Craig Kahler]

I buy China stuff too. I get suducied by the dark side (price). But for quality/social/political reasons, I avoid China stuff when possible. I can get a Kenda for only $2.00 more then a Shinko, so price realy does not come into play here. I may be wrong about where these tires are made. Could someone with Kendas or Shinkos look at your tires and tell me if the country of manufacture is indicated? Craig ________________________________ From: Jeff Khoury To: Ron Criswell Cc: Craig Kahler ; klr dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com>; David Zawadzki Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 11:57 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Kenda 270 V Shinko 244 There are some very nice things made in China; There is absolute garbage made there as well. The good stuff is made when a foreign (to them) company comes over with a design and either: a) trains the workers and supervises the production of the product. b) continually rejects production samples until they get it right. The stuff where they do their own engineering and production is crap 90+% of the time. That is my experience with them, and the experience of some of my colleagues. -Jeff Khoury

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Criswell" To: "David Zawadzki" Cc: "Craig Kahler" , "klr" dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 5:33:35 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Kenda 270 V Shinko 244 I have to laugh about the China comment. I had a $200 Harbor Freight band saw for wood working (made of course in China). I thought I would step up and buy a more trick band saw at Woodcraft spending $750. As I was finalizing the deal, I told the Woodcraft guy I was stepping up from my cheapo Harbor Freight Chinese made band saw. He laughed and said they are all made in China these days except one. My new one was made in China and it works very well. That said....I trust my $25 Harbor Freight torque wrench more than my $100 American one. Wasn't the trade agreement with China supposed to benefit us more because of he vast population in China wanting Amercun stuff? I think we do sell them quite a bit of Coca-cola, iPods (made there...heh) and Buicks (probably also made there),,,,,,but hey, they love Buicks.....thank God somebody does. Criswell Sent from my iPad On Feb 14, 2012, at 5:40 PM, David Zawadzki < fordavidz@... > wrote: > Made in Korea is good. I wouldn't recommend anything made in china if you want reliability. > > -David Z > mobile: 646.267.1109 > > -please download our free single > www.thevanguardband.com > > On Feb 14, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Craig Kahler < ckahleer@... > wrote: > > > I'm in need of a new rear tire. I try to avoid stuff made in China. I heard Kenda is made in Korea and Shinko is made in China. Is this correct. > > Thanks > > Craig > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Fred Hink]

The Kenda tires I have in stock all say made in Taiwan and the Shinkos I have are made in Korea. Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com From: Craig Kahler Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 8:08 AM To: klr Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Kenda 270 V Shinko 244 I buy China stuff too. I get suducied by the dark side (price). But for quality/social/political reasons, I avoid China stuff when possible. I can get a Kenda for only $2.00 more then a Shinko, so price realy does not come into play here. I may be wrong about where these tires are made. Could someone with Kendas or Shinkos look at your tires and tell me if the country of manufacture is indicated? Craig ________________________________ From: Jeff Khoury To: Ron Criswell Cc: Craig Kahler ; klr ; David Zawadzki Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 11:57 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Kenda 270 V Shinko 244 There are some very nice things made in China; There is absolute garbage made there as well. The good stuff is made when a foreign (to them) company comes over with a design and either: a) trains the workers and supervises the production of the product. b) continually rejects production samples until they get it right. The stuff where they do their own engineering and production is crap 90+% of the time. That is my experience with them, and the experience of some of my colleagues. -Jeff Khoury

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Criswell" To: "David Zawadzki" Cc: "Craig Kahler" , "klr" Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 5:33:35 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Kenda 270 V Shinko 244 I have to laugh about the China comment. I had a $200 Harbor Freight band saw for wood working (made of course in China). I thought I would step up and buy a more trick band saw at Woodcraft spending $750. As I was finalizing the deal, I told the Woodcraft guy I was stepping up from my cheapo Harbor Freight Chinese made band saw. He laughed and said they are all made in China these days except one. My new one was made in China and it works very well. That said....I trust my $25 Harbor Freight torque wrench more than my $100 American one. Wasn't the trade agreement with China supposed to benefit us more because of he vast population in China wanting Amercun stuff? I think we do sell them quite a bit of Coca-cola, iPods (made there...heh) and Buicks (probably also made there),,,,,,but hey, they love Buicks.....thank God somebody does. Criswell Sent from my iPad On Feb 14, 2012, at 5:40 PM, David Zawadzki < mailto:fordavidz%40gmail.com > wrote: > Made in Korea is good. I wouldn't recommend anything made in china if you want reliability. > > -David Z > mobile: 646.267.1109 > > -please download our free single > www.thevanguardband.com > > On Feb 14, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Craig Kahler < mailto:ckahleer%40yahoo.com > wrote: > > > I'm in need of a new rear tire. I try to avoid stuff made in China. I heard Kenda is made in Korea and Shinko is made in China. Is this correct. > > Thanks > > Craig > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[John Weisgerber]

My KLR has Shinko 705s front and rear. No complaints whatsoever for highway commuting so far. I had been told that Shinko was a Korean company that took over motorcycle tire production from Yokohama. Further digging shows that to be mostly true: "Established in 1946, the Shinko Group began as a manufacturer of bicycle tires and tubes in Osaka, Japan that today has become a burgeoning manufacture of rubber products.In 1998 the Shinko Group purchased the motorcycle tire technology and molds from Yokohama Rubber Co., and began production of these products under the Shinko Tire brand. With manufacturing based in South Korea and design based in Japan, the company has seamlessly combined Japanese engineering and design principles with South Korean production and quality control standards." http://www.shinkotireusa.com/about.php Cheers, John [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jud Jones]

Nope, this one: http://motionpro.com/motorcycle/tools/category/t_6_combo_lever/ The bead buddy thing is handy, but I carry it mostly for karmic prophylaxis, much like the tube snake, another little doodad that figures to be handy as heck, but in reality is rarely needed. At least neither one takes up as much weight or space in your trail tools as a bead breaker would. The T6 levers are the biznizz for mounting tires without pinching tubes. If you don't have a problem with pinching tubes, then there is no need to spend nearly a hunnert bucks for a set of three (22 and 24mm for the axle nuts, and the 12/13 for stem nuts, plus the lip on the end that helps avoid pinching.) In my personal pantheon of hand tools that cost way, way too much but are worth every nickel, these rank just ahead of the Estwing 16 oz.leather-handled hammer, and right alongside the Snap-On ratcheting screwdriver. (The reason I don't rank the Estwaing quite as high is that it only costs about twice as much as a decent hammer, as opposed to ten times as much for the levers and the screwdriver). But if you don't carry the T6 levers, at least carry one of these, a steel spoon with a looped handle: http://motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0115/ You can probably get the functional equivalent from your local accessory house for about 2.99. One of these with any two other tire levers will allow you to try both bead breaking methods, one or the other of which is bound to work.

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