motorcycle superstore

[Ian Francisco]

I think I spieled it write. What do you all think of this gizmo? Replaces rim strip and tube and touts itself to be virtually puncture-proof: http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/2/9/203/28640/ITEM/Neutech-The-TUbliss-Core.aspx?WT.ac=SLIsearch -- ian http://www.scarletfuries.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Scarlet-Furies/121218125931 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[David Nichols]

I think these are ingenious. Allows very low pressure without the bead coming off or rotating the tire on the rim. You could ride them flat if you had to and they would not go off the bead as long as the inner bladder is still inflated. You get the best of both tubeless and tube tires. You can plug a hole using the tubeless repair kits without dismounting the tire like you have to with tubes, and you also use tube type tires with it so you don't have to deal with the ultra stiff tubeless beads while mounting or dismounting tires. I've read good reviews on these from people who have used them. I haven't had any experience with these but I'm planning on trying them. You may notice they state they are not DOT approved and are for off road only. I think this is for the reason that getting DOT certification is very expensive and the company doesn't choose to spend the thousands of dollars to get certified. Their official answer is "off road only" no comment on the DOT certification. If you analyse the design, you will come to the conclusion (as I did) that these are no less safe (and very likely safer) than a tube tire setup. However, they aren't available for a 17 inch diameter (rear) wheel...yet. I contacted the manufacturer about making 17 inch models and they plan on having them for sale in May. You can get the 21 inch front right now. ________________________________ From: Ian Francisco To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 10:34 AM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] The Tubliss core I think I spieled it write. What do you all think of this gizmo? Replaces rim strip and tube and touts itself to be virtually puncture-proof: http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/2/9/203/28640/ITEM/Neutech-The-TUbliss-Core.aspx?WT.ac=SLIsearch -- ian http://www.scarletfuries.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Scarlet-Furies/121218125931 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Kenneth Edick]

I contacted the manufacturer in the spring of 2010 and 2011, both times they stated that it would be for sale in late spring. Please, don't hold your breath waiting... Ken Colorado

On Feb 13, 2012, at 9:50 AM, David Nichols wrote: > I think these are ingenious. Allows very low pressure without the bead coming off or rotating the tire on the rim. You could ride them flat if you had to and they would not go off the bead as long as the inner bladder is still inflated. You get the best of both tubeless and tube tires. You can plug a hole using the tubeless repair kits without dismounting the tire like you have to with tubes, and you also use tube type tires with it so you don't have to deal with the ultra stiff tubeless beads while mounting or dismounting tires. I've read good reviews on these from people who have used them. I haven't had any experience with these but I'm planning on trying them. > > You may notice they state they are not DOT approved and are for off road only. I think this is for the reason that getting DOT certification is very expensive and the company doesn't choose to spend the thousands of dollars to get certified. Their official answer is "off road only" no comment on the DOT certification. If you analyse the design, you will come to the conclusion (as I did) that these are no less safe (and very likely safer) than a tube tire setup. > > However, they aren't available for a 17 inch diameter (rear) wheel...yet. I contacted the manufacturer about making 17 inch models and they plan on having them for sale in May. You can get the 21 inch front right now. > > ________________________________ > From: Ian Francisco > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 10:34 AM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] The Tubliss core > > > > I think I spieled it write. What do you all think of this gizmo? Replaces > rim strip and tube and touts itself to be virtually puncture-proof: > > http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/2/9/203/28640/ITEM/Neutech-The-TUbliss-Core.aspx?WT.ac=SLIsearch > > -- > ian > http://www.scarletfuries.com > http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Scarlet-Furies/121218125931 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[revmaaatin]

Ian, Looks like a really cool product. I wonder how well it works on a tire with 'softer' side walls like a K270.... I have never used this product, but I would 'notice' what do professional off road riders/racers use.... I think they (Dakar competitors) generally 'vote' for the use the product immediatly to the right of the TuBliss ad: Michelin Bib Mousse Flat-Proof Competition Foam Tube, (according to some of the blog conversations about their bike builds.) Sorry. No experience with this product either. How ever I do have experience with this one: Motion Pro Tire Lever. smile. Works as advertised. Especially when coupled with this bit of Jeff Saline wisdom: "90% of the flats occur in the last 10% of the tire life." A-Men Change the tire a little early, use the tire irons a lot less. cough. ask me how I know. revmaaatin.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Ian Francisco wrote: > > I think I spieled it write. What do you all think of this gizmo? Replaces > rim strip and tube and touts itself to be virtually puncture-proof: > > http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/2/9/203/28640/ITEM/Neutech-The-TUbliss-Core.aspx?WT.ac=SLIsearch > > > -- > ian > http://www.scarletfuries.com > http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Scarlet-Furies/121218125931 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[Jeff Khoury]

A mousse would be great if they developed one that could be used on-road... I hear that if you do, the consequences are catastrophic. -Jeff Khoury

----- Original Message ----- From: "revmaaatin" To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 4:57:59 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: The Tubliss core Ian, Looks like a really cool product. I wonder how well it works on a tire with 'softer' side walls like a K270.... I have never used this product, but I would 'notice' what do professional off road riders/racers use.... I think they (Dakar competitors) generally 'vote' for the use the product immediatly to the right of the TuBliss ad: Michelin Bib Mousse Flat-Proof Competition Foam Tube, (according to some of the blog conversations about their bike builds.) Sorry. No experience with this product either. How ever I do have experience with this one: Motion Pro Tire Lever. smile. Works as advertised. Especially when coupled with this bit of Jeff Saline wisdom: "90% of the flats occur in the last 10% of the tire life." A-Men Change the tire a little early, use the tire irons a lot less. cough. ask me how I know. revmaaatin. --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com , Ian Francisco wrote: > > I think I spieled it write. What do you all think of this gizmo? Replaces > rim strip and tube and touts itself to be virtually puncture-proof: > > http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/2/9/203/28640/ITEM/Neutech-The-TUbliss-Core.aspx?WT.ac=SLIsearch > > > -- > ian > http://www.scarletfuries.com > http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Scarlet-Furies/121218125931 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[Eddie]

If I recall my past Dakar rally watching, the issue is heat. Above a certain temperature, the mousse melts. For that reason, the BMW team that was featured that day mentioned limiting the top speed of the boxer twins. I imagine the tire would go flat and get very out of balance at the same time. Yee haa! =( eddie [Original Message] From: Jeff Khoury A mousse would be great if they developed one that could be used on-road... I hear that if you do, the consequences are catastrophic. -Jeff Khoury

[RobertWichert]

No doubt.... Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 2/14/2012 3:51 PM, Jud wrote: > > By way of contrast, I think TKC-80s are overpriced and overrated, like > most German tires. ;-{> > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > , RobertWichert wrote: > > > > I am a "TKC-80 die-hard". > > > > > > Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP > > +1 916 966 9060 > > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =============================================== > > > > > > On 2/14/2012 8:19 AM, Ian Francisco wrote: > > > > > > Had an encounter with a short drywall screw recently that left me > and my > > > GS450 stranded. Since a new tire was also on the horizon for the > KLR650, I > > > have been browsing tires and settled on Motorcycle Superstore for my > > > purchases since they have such a large selection of sizes listed > and also > > > reader reviews. The GS450 takes 90/90-18 front and 110/90-18 rear. > Most > > > stores don't stock the rear, which was the one that picked up the > drywall > > > screw. > > > > > > I picked a TKC 80 for the next KLR front after reading some of these > > > reviews. Most proclaim the grip to be excellent on and off pavement. > > > One in > > > particular claimed 10k miles on the front of a 1200GS, so that's worth > > > trying for on a KLR. Orders over $100 get free shipping. That's > one good > > > tire and a tube . That was yesterday and they are shipping today > so they > > > had the items in stock as well. Online stores take note. > > > > > > > http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/2/29/393/14858/ITEM/Continental-TKC-80-Twinduro-Dual-Sport-Front-Tire.aspx?WT.ac=SLIsearch > > > > > > Now to reacquaint myself with my tire irons and arm and shoulder > > > muscles > > > I was initially just going to replace the tube on the GS450 but after > > > seeing a date code of 3305 (Aug 05) on the S11 and having a heck > of a time > > > spooning it off the rim, I knew I could not justify remounting the > tire > > > despite having ample tread remaining. I've just been getting tires > > > from the > > > local shop who charge more but mount and balance free, so thought I'd > > > upgrade the tires and do the labor myself to offset the cost. Not > exactly > > > my idea of fun though. > > > -- > > > ian > > > http://www.scarletfuries.com > > > http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Scarlet-Furies/121218125931 > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]