thermo-bob and why i think it's a good idea

[klrdon@comcast.net]

Thermo Bob is the new oil thread??????? Ah, a fresh breeze!!!! Don M -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Khoury Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 6:31 PM To: tomatocity Cc: DSN KLR650 ; James W. Flower Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Seeking faster warmups So, explain to me then exactly how a thermo-bob improves cooling when idling at a stop light. I don't even think Watt-Man will say that his product does that, unless the radiator fan is already running because your water temp is already higher. A radiator bypass can DECREASE the amount of cooling but it can do nothing to INCREASE that amount. If so, rigging a handlebar switch to keep your fan running all the time would accomplish the same thing for about $6.95. -Jeff Khoury

----- Original Message ----- From: "tomatocity" To: "James W. Flower" Cc: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 3:53:31 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Seeking faster warmups Buy a Honda or any other motorcycle that uses the same bypass system (though stock) as the Thermo-bob. You want high operating temperaatures? Come to the Sacramento Valley and stop at a 5 minute red light. Fan or not you will peg the temp gauge, over and over again. You won't with a Thermo-bob. Tim On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 1:15 PM, James W. Flower wrote: > ** > > > All- the Thermo-Bob thread reminded me that in the coolness of the far > NorCal > coast it takes forever for my A13 to warm up. I'm just another theoretical > non-Thermo-Bob user, but I can't see the higher operating temps with the > Thermo-Bob as a good thing. However, I am attracted by the prospect of > faster > warmups. And so the question: How to get faster warmups without higher > operating temp? > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map Group Apps: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! Groups Links ------------------------------------ List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map Group Apps: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! Groups Links ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1382 / Virus Database: 1513/3716 - Release Date: 06/20/11

[skypilot110]

Nah, people havent started throwing punches yet. It's an oil thread when people start using terms like Jihad over there prefered oil

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > Thermo Bob is the new oil thread??????? > > Ah, a fresh breeze!!!! > > Don M >

[Eddie]

I oiled the o-ring on my Thermo-Bob with synthetic spotted owl grease. Am I gonna get kicked off this list? eddie

[Fred Hink]

Sorry, you must be thinking of that dot net site. Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com From: eddie Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 7:35 AM To: KLR650 list Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Thermo Bob is the new oil thread??????? I oiled the o-ring on my Thermo-Bob with synthetic spotted owl grease. Am I gonna get kicked off this list? eddie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Bill Watson]

Jeff Khoury wrote:

>>Your oil temp chart specs a 60-65 degree day. Not what I would call "cold".

Exactly! I get a kick out of the posts that say I wouldn t benefit from a Thermo-Bob because I don t ride in ARCTIC conditions . They re thinking it s got to be 20F outside to see a benefit . The cold-weather benefit starts around 70 to 80F. I did that published oil temp test at 60-65 F because it is a temp many people ride at, and their oil is too cold and the T-bob will raise oil temps at that condition to a more appropriate level. If I did that oil temp test at 40F or 20F, the improvement in oil temps would be even more dramatic. Some people are getting sidetraced with a "hotter is worse" mantra but it's all relative. If your oil is 140F, Hotter is better! If your oil is 240, yes, hotter is worse. What's the goal? Around 200 F all the time, all year. If I did the oil temp plot at an ambient temperature of 100F, the curves would be the same because either way, the stat s are wide open and the bikes are running coolant temps of 210F no matter if it s a stock bike, has a T-bob, or even no stat at all. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[tomatocity]

Did the spotted owl taste good ;^)

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 6:35 AM, eddie wrote: > ** > > > I oiled the o-ring on my Thermo-Bob with synthetic spotted owl grease. > Am I gonna get kicked off this list? > eddie > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]