accessory?? -- officially nklr now.

[roncriswell@sbcglobal.net]

Anybody on the list have one? I have thought about buying one to go more places than the super tanker. Pro's - Con's? I have heard the Yamaha AR street legal is better but more pricey. Criswell

[Kevin Powers]

I have a 2006. It is much more capable than the KLR off road, but that comes at the cost of highway capability. It is capable of cruising at highway speeds, but if you hit a hill or a head wind your top speed drops rapidly. There is a pretty standard package of mods to help the engine breathe better for a little more power. There is also a popular 351cc kit; the lower end of the KLX engine was designed as a 300 so it holds up well to the added cc's. I have mine fitted with a Acerbis tank for betting cruising range. I love mine for it's nimble handling in gnarly terrain, but highway miles - especially with altitude, inclines, headwinds or god forbid any combination of these - are a chore. For that reason I am considering a DRZ. The Yamaha WR is fuel injected and has a bit better suspension components, but is pricier and still requires mods to tap more usable power. I don't have any first hand knowlege of this bike. -- Kevin Powers White Bear Lake, MN

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 8:19 AM, roncriswell@... wrote: Anybody on the list have one? I have thought about buying one to go more places than the super tanker. Pro's - Con's? I have heard the Yamaha AR street legal is better but more pricey. Criswell

[Jud]

Kevin, the DRZ is a great bike, but it won't really be much of an improvement over the KLX as a highway bike. It won't run out of breath quite as soon as the KLX, but a long highway grind will be just as miserable as on the KLX

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Powers wrote: > > I have a 2006. It is much more capable than the KLR off road, but that > comes at the cost of highway capability. It is capable of cruising at > highway speeds, but if you hit a hill or a head wind your top speed drops > rapidly. There is a pretty standard package of mods to help the engine > breathe better for a little more power. There is also a popular 351cc kit; > the lower end of the KLX engine was designed as a 300 so it holds up well to > the added cc's. I have mine fitted with a Acerbis tank for betting cruising > range. I love mine for it's nimble handling in gnarly terrain, but highway > miles - especially with altitude, inclines, headwinds or god forbid any > combination of these - are a chore. For that reason I am considering a DRZ. > > The Yamaha WR is fuel injected and has a bit better suspension components, > but is pricier and still requires mods to tap more usable power. I don't > have any first hand knowlege of this bike. > > -- > Kevin Powers > White Bear Lake, MN > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 8:19 AM, roncriswell@... roncriswell@...> wrote: > > > > > > > Anybody on the list have one? I have thought about buying one to go more > > places than the super tanker. Pro's - Con's? I have heard the Yamaha AR > > street legal is better but more pricey. > > > > Criswell > > > > >

[Mike Frey]

I have seat time in both bikes, but don't own them. They are both good. Right off the factory floor, the Kawasaki has slightly more power. My neighbor (Yamaha WR-250) goes on rides with us and his bike will hum along at freeway speeds. I would agree that the WR has better suspension, but the difference is negligible. KLX-250 mods are more common since it has been around for years outside the USA and it's engine is derived from the KLX-300. I have taken a ride on another friend's KLX modded with a pipe and 300cc kit, and it gets up and goes quite nicely. His bike outran my KLR up to about 60 MPH then I caught up with him. Off road, both the KLX and WR are good. In areas where I would be concentrating to keep the KLR balanced, the WR and KLX will glide right on through. Mike Jud wrote:

  Kevin, the DRZ is a great bike, but it won't really be much of an improvement over the KLX as a highway bike. It won't run out of breath quite as soon as the KLX, but a long highway grind will be just as miserable as on the KLX --- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, Kevin Powers PowersHouse@... wrote: > > I have a 2006. It is much more capable than the KLR off road, but that > comes at the cost of highway capability. It is capable of cruising at > highway speeds, but if you hit a hill or a head wind your top speed drops > rapidly. There is a pretty standard package of mods to help the engine > breathe better for a little more power. There is also a popular 351cc kit; > the lower end of the KLX engine was designed as a 300 so it holds up well to > the added cc's. I have mine fitted with a Acerbis tank for betting cruising > range. I love mine for it's nimble handling in gnarly terrain, but highway > miles - especially with altitude, inclines, headwinds or god forbid any > combination of these - are a chore. For that reason I am considering a DRZ. > > The Yamaha WR is fuel injected and has a bit better suspension components, > but is pricier and still requires mods to tap more usable power. I don't > have any first hand knowlege of this bike. > > -- > Kevin Powers > White Bear Lake, MN > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 8:19 AM, roncriswell@... roncriswell@...> wrote: > > > > > > > Anybody on the list have one? I have thought about buying one to go more > > places than the super tanker. Pro's - Con's? I have heard the Yamaha AR > > street legal is better but more pricey. > > > > Criswell > > > > >

[Kevin Powers]

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Jud wrote: Kevin, the DRZ is a great bike, but it won't really be much of an improvement over the KLX as a highway bike. It won't run out of breath quite as soon as the KLX, but a long highway grind will be just as miserable as on the KLX

You're certainly right as far as comfort goes Jud, but on the way to Creel last year I was having to stir the gear shift on the KLX with every turn into the wind or change in the slope, while the DRZs just motored along. Maybe if they had been chasing 650s instead of my 250 it would have been a different story. Perhaps I'm searching for a mythical bike, something that is light and nimble like the KLX, has the power to handle highway speeds with aplomb, and is as reliable and low maintenance as the KLR. Oh, and that I can find a clean used one of for less than $3000. -- Kevin Powers White Bear Lake, MN

[Jud]

Funny, the ride to Creel is just the one I had in mind. Presidio-Chihuahua in particular. That's about as much highway as I'd care to ride on a bike that size. Since nobody has offered the perfect dual sport bike yet, you still have to decide whether you want to keep up with John C. on the highway, or enjoy your dirt bike with lights in the mountains.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Powers wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Jud wrote: > > > > > > > Kevin, the DRZ is a great bike, but it won't really be much of an > > improvement over the KLX as a highway bike. It won't run out of breath quite > > as soon as the KLX, but a long highway grind will be just as miserable as on > > the KLX > > > > You're certainly right as far as comfort goes Jud, but on the way to Creel > last year I was having to stir the gear shift on the KLX with every turn > into the wind or change in the slope, while the DRZs just motored along. > Maybe if they had been chasing 650s instead of my 250 it would have been a > different story. > > Perhaps I'm searching for a mythical bike, something that is light and > nimble like the KLX, has the power to handle highway speeds with aplomb, and > is as reliable and low maintenance as the KLR. Oh, and that I can find a > clean used one of for less than $3000. > -- > Kevin Powers > White Bear Lake, MN >

[ron criswell]

I am not looking for it to Hwy cruise like the KLR. Just looking for a more worthy street legal dirt bike so I can explore more gnarly terrain without fear of dropping it and trying to pick the beast up especially when tired. Looks like a street legal dirt bike will be increasingly popular especially  in National / State Parks .........as long as we join the AMA to fight any greenies trying to keep us out of federal or state land. Criswell Sent from my iPad

On Jan 17, 2011, at 11:18 AM, "Jud" wrote:

  Kevin, the DRZ is a great bike, but it won't really be much of an improvement over the KLX as a highway bike. It won't run out of breath quite as soon as the KLX, but a long highway grind will be just as miserable as on the KLX --- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, Kevin Powers wrote: > > I have a 2006. It is much more capable than the KLR off road, but that > comes at the cost of highway capability. It is capable of cruising at > highway speeds, but if you hit a hill or a head wind your top speed drops > rapidly. There is a pretty standard package of mods to help the engine > breathe better for a little more power. There is also a popular 351cc kit; > the lower end of the KLX engine was designed as a 300 so it holds up well to > the added cc's. I have mine fitted with a Acerbis tank for betting cruising > range. I love mine for it's nimble handling in gnarly terrain, but highway > miles - especially with altitude, inclines, headwinds or god forbid any > combination of these - are a chore. For that reason I am considering a DRZ. > > The Yamaha WR is fuel injected and has a bit better suspension components, > but is pricier and still requires mods to tap more usable power. I don't > have any first hand knowlege of this bike. > > -- > Kevin Powers > White Bear Lake, MN > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 8:19 AM, roncriswell@... roncriswell@...> wrote: > > > > > > > Anybody on the list have one? I have thought about buying one to go more > > places than the super tanker. Pro's - Con's? I have heard the Yamaha AR > > street legal is better but more pricey. > > > > Criswell > > > > >

[ron criswell]

There is certainly room for some creativity with what I call all purpose bikes (and the new Yamaha big ass dirt bike looking bike wanna be ain't it in my humble opinion). I was sorta interested in those V twin Aprillia's...except they were Italian. I wish the Japanese would make something kinda like that. Eric Buell had some interesting ideas on building a low maintenance dirt bike or motocrosser.....ah but...big Hoggly pulled the plug on Eric. Stupid..... if big Hoggly wants more serious Amercan buyers.  Criswell Sent from my iPad

On Jan 17, 2011, at 5:47 PM, "Jud" wrote:

  Funny, the ride to Creel is just the one I had in mind. Presidio-Chihuahua in particular. That's about as much highway as I'd care to ride on a bike that size. Since nobody has offered the perfect dual sport bike yet, you still have to decide whether you want to keep up with John C. on the highway, or enjoy your dirt bike with lights in the mountains. --- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, Kevin Powers wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Jud wrote: > > > > > > > Kevin, the DRZ is a great bike, but it won't really be much of an > > improvement over the KLX as a highway bike. It won't run out of breath quite > > as soon as the KLX, but a long highway grind will be just as miserable as on > > the KLX > > > > You're certainly right as far as comfort goes Jud, but on the way to Creel > last year I was having to stir the gear shift on the KLX with every turn > into the wind or change in the slope, while the DRZs just motored along. > Maybe if they had been chasing 650s instead of my 250 it would have been a > different story. > > Perhaps I'm searching for a mythical bike, something that is light and > nimble like the KLX, has the power to handle highway speeds with aplomb, and > is as reliable and low maintenance as the KLR. Oh, and that I can find a > clean used one of for less than $3000. > -- > Kevin Powers > White Bear Lake, MN >

[revmaaatin]

Little data comparison here: http://www.kawasaki.com/Products/product-specifications.aspx?id=416 http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products/modelspecs/66/0/specs.aspx Some how I thought the WR was FI. ah, no. Not according to the spec's above. Another surprise, check out the warranty on the WR. Last line of the spec sheet. Not a lot of confidence in their product for nearly $2K more than the KLX. Big Dog's comments on the WR here: http://www.bigdogadventures.com/WR250R.htm Should you wonder, Big Dog has been a KLR rider for some time. His summary: Grew older, went smaller revmaaatin. thinking smaller also.

[dooden]

Random pick like Jury Duty ? Might work... just see the two main parties just getting worse and worse... Why not somebody that can lead all to a common goal, but as a coworker put it "I am glad I am on my way out of this life and not just beginning it" There is no common goal it seems anymore. Dooden A15 Green Ape

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Khoury wrote: > > " Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job." > > and > > "The desire to rule should ethically be a disqualifying factor." > > -Jeff Khoury > > > > From: "Ron Criswell" > To: "Jud" > Cc: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 10:34:01 AM > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Accessory?? > > > > > > > > > Competent and politicians don't add up. > > > Criswell > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 21, 2011, at 11:42 AM, "Jud" < judjonzz@... > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com , Gary Thacker wrote: > > > Today if your a democrat your a Socialist > > > > So ignorant on so many levels. If the Democrats were competent, they would have cut the insurance industry out of public health care altogether, enacted Medicare for everyone, and eliminated the cap on Social Security withholding. But that would not make them socialists. >