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revmaaatin
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Post by revmaaatin » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:28 pm

List- Unfortunately, it is near the end of sane riding seasons here in South Dakota and there is no heated storage or room in the one car garage for Mrs. rev's car and the big boys toys. So-o-o-o; Tomorrow is the day I bite the oil change; = many. + treat the gas w/ Seafoam, let the bike run with seafoam in the carbs, drain the carbs, pull the batteries (no power/electricity available), pump the tires, tent the bikes with plastic and put out the mouse poison, poison, poison. Ideally, when I can (last year it snowed the building shut and it stayed that way for 4 months) I like to put the bikes away with a fresh oil change and fresh filter. It would be a lot easier to change the oil at home and ride the bikes back to the cold storage unit. My over-winter storage is ~1/4 mile away from my house; the question is this: Does riding the bike back that 1/4 mile and ~5-8 minutes engine time really matter as far as oil contamination for winter storage, or is it 'really-best' not to restart the motors after the fresh oil change for a 5 month storage? No wise guy remarks about the Mrs. car spot/garage. smile. It's my one car garage for the summer, Its hers for the nasty wx days of fall, winter, spring. revmaaatin.

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Post by Carlos Rigdon » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:39 pm

This is Beth Rigdon. I sadly am informing you that my husband Carlos passed away Tuesday evening of a heart attack. Thanks for your fellowship you have shown him. I know it meant a lot to him. You can see his obit at Hinsey-Brown.com.

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Post by revmaaatin » Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:01 am

List- Here is a direct link. http://www.hinsey-brown.com/obituaries/Carlos-Rigdon/ revmaaatin.
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Carlos Rigdon wrote: > > This is Beth Rigdon. I sadly am informing you that my husband Carlos > passed away Tuesday evening of a heart attack. Thanks for your > fellowship you have shown him. I know it meant a lot to him. You can > see his obit at Hinsey-Brown.com. >

Jeff Saline
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Post by Jeff Saline » Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:34 am

On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 05:27:50 -0000 "revmaaatin" writes: SNIP
> the question is this: > > Does riding the bike back that 1/4 mile and ~5-8 minutes engine time > really matter as far as oil contamination for winter storage, or is > it 'really-best' not to restart the motors after the fresh oil > change for a 5 month storage?
<><><><><><> <><><><><><> Martin, I don't see any issue at all as long as you allow each engine to get to operating temp. Better to have fresh, circulated oil in the engine over the winter than old oil and contaminates. Best, Jeff Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT . ____________________________________________________________ Obama Urges Homeowners to Refinance If you owe under $729k you probably qualify for Obama's Refi Program http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4ce539556fb0465831m07vuc

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Post by cycletip » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:44 am

> My over-winter storage is ~1/4 mile away from my house; > > the question is this: > > Does riding the bike back that 1/4 mile and ~5-8 minutes engine time really matter as far as oil contamination for winter storage, or is it 'really-best' not to restart the motors after the fresh oil change for a 5 month storage?
________________________________________________________________________ All the winterizing is an eye opener to those of us who don't deal with the cold. Your preventive maintenance practice seems great to me. Since the distance is close just try to get the engine up to operating temps so any condensation is burnt off before shutting her down. Short runs of the engine get just enough heat to cause moisture but not enough burn it off. Good luck tucking her in. Why won't the Misses let ya put her in the living room?

Jud
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Post by Jud » Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:36 am

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "cycletip" wrote: Why won't the Misses let ya put her in the living room? > After all, she's hogging the garage for her car.

fasteddiecopeman
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Post by fasteddiecopeman » Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:11 pm

Martin, My sense is that, UNLESS you fire it up, the fresh oil does NOT get everywhere.... I'd say to do it. Cheers, Ed (in AZ till April...!)
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote: > > List- > Unfortunately, it is near the end of sane riding seasons here in South Dakota and there is no heated storage or room in the one car garage for Mrs. rev's car and the big boys toys. > > So-o-o-o; Tomorrow is the day I bite the oil change; = many. + treat the gas w/ Seafoam, let the bike run with seafoam in the carbs, drain the carbs, pull the batteries (no power/electricity available), pump the tires, tent the bikes with plastic and put out the mouse poison, poison, poison. > > Ideally, when I can (last year it snowed the building shut and it stayed that way for 4 months) I like to put the bikes away with a fresh oil change and fresh filter. It would be a lot easier to change the oil at home and ride the bikes back to the cold storage unit. > > My over-winter storage is ~1/4 mile away from my house; > > the question is this: > > Does riding the bike back that 1/4 mile and ~5-8 minutes engine time really matter as far as oil contamination for winter storage, or is it 'really-best' not to restart the motors after the fresh oil change for a 5 month storage? > > > > No wise guy remarks about the Mrs. car spot/garage. smile. > It's my one car garage for the summer, > Its hers for the nasty wx days of fall, winter, spring. > > revmaaatin. >

goluxgo
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over-winter storage oil change

Post by goluxgo » Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:30 pm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote:
> > List- > Unfortunately, it is near the end of sane riding seasons here in South Dakota and there is no heated storage or room in the one car garage for Mrs. rev's car and the big boys toys.
It may be a good idea to put some kind of plug in the muffler and also duct tape the intake on the airbox to keep air from circulating through the motor and maybe corroding something. Storing it with the engine on the compression stroke wouldn't hurt either. Larry.

revmaaatin
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over-winter storage oil change

Post by revmaaatin » Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:35 pm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "cycletip" wrote:
> > > My over-winter storage is ~1/4 mile away from my house; > > > > the question is this: > > > > Does riding the bike back that 1/4 mile and ~5-8 minutes engine time really matter as far as oil contamination for winter storage, or is it 'really-best' not to restart the motors after the fresh oil change for a 5 month storage? > ________________________________________________________________________ > > All the winterizing is an eye opener to those of us who don't deal with the cold. Your preventive maintenance practice seems great to me. Since the distance is close just try to get the engine up to operating temps so any condensation is burnt off before shutting her down. Short runs of the engine get just enough heat to cause moisture but not enough burn it off. Good luck tucking her in. Why won't the Misses let ya put her in the living room? >
PM to you only. If I put the 4 KLR's The KLX300 The Yamaha 225 The XR70/80/100/100 in the living room, I'll be sleeping in the garage. revmaaatin. yeah, 10 of them....

Mike Frey
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Post by Mike Frey » Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:20 pm

My basement is large enough to fit 10 bikes but I won't ride my big ZRX down the side of the house to enter the daylight doors - I've dropped a street bike or 2 going down the grassy hill. The KLR, Sherpa, and other small bikes hang out in the basement sometimes, but the bigger bikes stay in the garage. Changing the oil before putting the bikes away for the winter is a good idea, but for the most part, it probably does not matter much as long as you change the oil at regular intervals. Last year, I changed oil on 4 bikes on December 12th and did not start them again until March (our winters are a bit shorter than yours!). We had a colder than usual winter with a lot of snow - normally no more than 6 weeks or so goes by without riding one or more of them. I can typically ride up to about Christmas and then by early February, we'll get a day of 50+ weather. Not last year! IMHO, parking a bike that is overdue for an oil change for long periods of time is bad. The practice of starting up motorcycles once a week or so to "warm them up and charge the battery" is equally bad. Guys who do this are better off leaving the bike sit - or, go for that 10+ mile ride! Sure, it's cold, but invigorating! One startup and a 1/8 mile trip to storage probably causes no harm to any bike as long as you don't do once a week. All of my Kawasakis are easy to tell if the oil has warmed enough to evaporate the condensation: you can see it in the oil level window until you've gone about 10 miles. Every bike from the 250 Super Sherpa to the 1200 ZRX will have milky looking oil for the first 10 miles, then it rapidly disappears. Brand new oil does the same as oil with 1000 miles on it. I go about 2000 miles between changes. I wouldn't worry about a once a month short ride, but would not do that to a bike once a week for 12 weeks. revmaaatin wrote:
  --- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, "cycletip" cycletip@... wrote: > > > My over-winter storage is ~1/4 mile away from my house; > > > > the question is this: > > > > Does riding the bike back that 1/4 mile and ~5-8 minutes engine time really matter as far as oil contamination for winter storage, or is it 'really-best' not to restart the motors after the fresh oil change for a 5 month storage? > __________________________________________________________ > > All the winterizing is an eye opener to those of us who don't deal with the cold. Your preventive maintenance practice seems great to me. Since the distance is close just try to get the engine up to operating temps so any condensation is burnt off before shutting her down. Short runs of the engine get just enough heat to cause moisture but not enough burn it off. Good luck tucking her in. Why won't the Misses let ya put her in the living room? > PM to you only. If I put the 4 KLR's The KLX300 The Yamaha 225 The XR70/80/100/100 in the living room, I'll be sleeping in the garage. revmaaatin. yeah, 10 of them....

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