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[revmaaatin]

I was in our local tractor/ranch store tonight--called 'Runnings' and found a container marked "Stover Nut" in their extensive nut/bolt selection. It looked a lot like a prevailing torque nut. The Stover Nut had three signigicant 'impressions 120 degrees apart that made me think, 'this is a prevailing torque nut'. so google leads me here. http://coburnmyers.thomasnet.com/viewitems/nuts/stover-lock-nuts with this text: SNIP A one-piece hex nut which derives its prevailing torque characteristics from controlled distortion of its top threads from their normal helical form to a more elliptical shape. Frequently used in farm machinery, plus in the automotive and metalworking industries. Can withstand severe vibration and shock loads. Reusable and can withstand temperatures of up to 450 F. unsnip. Needed to look at the axle nut, thread pitch, etal to see what our bike uses--but what was in the 'selection' were large nuts at a very afordable price: $1.25 each. Will have to look again when I get there again. revmaaatin.

[Jeff Khoury]

#ygrps-yiv-348480465 p {margin:0;}The only problem that I see with these is that the link you provided were all SAE sizes, no metrics were listed.  Second, be aware of the finish, because the typical zinc plating on these nuts will chip and the nut will start to rust.  I'd probably just go with a stainless nyloc nut instead: http://www.fullermetric.com/products/st ... k_nut.html All you have to do is go out and see what size you need.  Then order in bulk and sell 'em to all us KLRistas at a reasonable profit. -Jeff Khoury

----- Original Message ----- From: "revmaaatin" To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 9:34:37 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Stover Nut   I was in our local tractor/ranch store tonight--called 'Runnings' and found a container marked "Stover Nut" in their extensive nut/bolt selection. It looked a lot like a prevailing torque nut. The Stover Nut had three signigicant 'impressions 120 degrees apart that made me think, 'this is a prevailing torque nut'. so google leads me here. http://coburnmyers.thomasnet.com/viewitems/nuts/stover-lock-nuts with this text: SNIP A one-piece hex nut which derives its prevailing torque characteristics from controlled distortion of its top threads from their normal helical form to a more elliptical shape. Frequently used in farm machinery, plus in the automotive and metalworking industries. Can withstand severe vibration and shock loads. Reusable and can withstand temperatures of up to 450 F. unsnip. Needed to look at the axle nut, thread pitch, etal to see what our bike uses--but what was in the 'selection' were large nuts at a very afordable price: $1.25 each. Will have to look again when I get there again. revmaaatin.

[Jeff Khoury]

#ygrps-yiv-72703018 p {margin:0;}Axle nut sizes (on my '09) are: M14 Front and M16 Rear I measured them with calipers, and then verified them with the parts fische.  I found a place selling them for $0.65 each in packages of 25.  Quite a deal, I'd say... For the countershaft (an M20), I'd still go with the Eagle Mike product though.  I've been informed that Nylocs are allergic to heat (makes sense) so I'd avoid their use on the countershaft.  In addition to being prevailing-torque, the Eagle Mike unit has a recess milled into the base that goes past the end of the threads to snug up aftermarket sprockets, negating the need for spacers on the outside in some instances.  I have one and I'm quite happy with it. -Jeff Khoury

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Khoury" To: "revmaaatin" Cc: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 10:32:23 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Stover Nut   The only problem that I see with these is that the link you provided were all SAE sizes, no metrics were listed.  Second, be aware of the finish, because the typical zinc plating on these nuts will chip and the nut will start to rust.  I'd probably just go with a stainless nyloc nut instead: http://www.fullermetric.com/products/st ... k_nut.html All you have to do is go out and see what size you need.  Then order in bulk and sell 'em to all us KLRistas at a reasonable profit. -Jeff Khoury ----- Original Message ----- From: "revmaaatin" To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 9:34:37 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Stover Nut   I was in our local tractor/ranch store tonight--called 'Runnings' and found a container marked "Stover Nut" in their extensive nut/bolt selection. It looked a lot like a prevailing torque nut. The Stover Nut had three signigicant 'impressions 120 degrees apart that made me think, 'this is a prevailing torque nut'. so google leads me here. http://coburnmyers.thomasnet.com/viewitems/nuts/stover-lock-nuts with this text: SNIP A one-piece hex nut which derives its prevailing torque characteristics from controlled distortion of its top threads from their normal helical form to a more elliptical shape. Frequently used in farm machinery, plus in the automotive and metalworking industries. Can withstand severe vibration and shock loads. Reusable and can withstand temperatures of up to 450 F. unsnip. Needed to look at the axle nut, thread pitch, etal to see what our bike uses--but what was in the 'selection' were large nuts at a very afordable price: $1.25 each. Will have to look again when I get there again. revmaaatin.

[tomatocity]

Axle nut sizes (on my '09) are: M14 Front and M16 Rear

I measured them with calipers, and then verified them with the parts fische. I found a place selling them for $0.65 each in packages of 25. Quite a deal, I'd say...

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Tim

[dooden]

Axle nuts use a cotter pin, and not to mention thread on and expose the axle ends what about 3/16" or so, not to mention with the fine thread I would not (myself) use that type nut knowing KHI is known to use compressed oatmeal for alot of its fastners. Jake anybody remember him ? (RIP) sent me some pins along with my Doo long ago, that have been in service just as long, same for the chain adjuster nuts (nyloc's) anyhow the pins are (forgot real name) kinda key shaped, some folks use them to lock down trailer couplings, but fit snug, and snap into place and have never even so much have moved once in and over nut. Used to add a ziplock tie over the open end, but have since quit that also. Tractor Supply (or local version) carries metric ? Only been in ours once or twice since it opened, and quick looking they seemed to have alot of stuff. Dooden A15 Green Ape

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote: > > I was in our local tractor/ranch store tonight--called 'Runnings' > and found a container marked "Stover Nut" in their extensive nut/bolt selection. > > It looked a lot like a prevailing torque nut. > The Stover Nut had three signigicant 'impressions 120 degrees apart that made me think, 'this is a prevailing torque nut'. > > so google leads me here. > http://coburnmyers.thomasnet.com/viewitems/nuts/stover-lock-nuts > with this text: > SNIP > > A one-piece hex nut which derives its prevailing torque characteristics from controlled distortion of its top threads from their normal helical form to a more elliptical shape. > > Frequently used in farm machinery, plus in the automotive and metalworking industries. Can withstand severe vibration and shock loads. Reusable and can withstand temperatures of up to 450 F. > > unsnip. > > Needed to look at the axle nut, thread pitch, etal to see what our bike uses--but what was in the 'selection' were large nuts at a very afordable price: $1.25 each. Will have to look again when I get there again. > > revmaaatin. >

[spike55_bmw]

4 yrs and 24,000+ miles ago, I purchased the Fuji-lock axle nuts from Dual Star and never used a cottler key since. By far, the rear nut has seen the most use due to tire changes, sprocket changes, and chain tightening and I've not had any issues. I plan to do the same thing to my NOS '06 KLR. Don R100, A6F (x2)

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote: > > I was in our local tractor/ranch store tonight--called 'Runnings' > and found a container marked "Stover Nut" in their extensive nut/bolt selection. > > It looked a lot like a prevailing torque nut. > The Stover Nut had three signigicant 'impressions 120 degrees apart that made me think, 'this is a prevailing torque nut'. > > so google leads me here. > http://coburnmyers.thomasnet.com/viewitems/nuts/stover-lock-nuts > with this text: > SNIP > > A one-piece hex nut which derives its prevailing torque characteristics from controlled distortion of its top threads from their normal helical form to a more elliptical shape. > > Frequently used in farm machinery, plus in the automotive and metalworking industries. Can withstand severe vibration and shock loads. Reusable and can withstand temperatures of up to 450 F. > > unsnip. > > Needed to look at the axle nut, thread pitch, etal to see what our bike uses--but what was in the 'selection' were large nuts at a very afordable price: $1.25 each. Will have to look again when I get there again. > > revmaaatin. >

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Khoury wrote:

> > The only problem that I see with these is that the link you provided were all SAE sizes, no metrics were listed. Second, be aware of the finish, because the typical zinc plating on these nuts will chip and the nut will start to rust. I'd probably just go with a stainless nyloc nut instead: > > http://www.fullermetric.com/products/stainless/din985nylon_insert_lock_nut.html > > All you have to do is go out and see what size you need. Then order in bulk and sell 'em to all us KLRistas at a reasonable profit. > > -Jeff Khoury

Jeff-- Yep. The link was to a site for SAE but my 'intention' was to reference the words, "stover" to its explanation that a stover nut was a prevailing torque nut. The actual nuts at the tractor/ranch store were available in metric--and that is why it caught my attention. Now, when I get back there, to see if they are available in our axle sizes. A nice to know item for the d/s adventurer, cough, and urban jungle hooligans. I also checked at the Fanstenal site; not available there as well. revmaaatin.

[revmaaatin]

Jeff-- Thanks for the measurements-- @.65/25parts, I am guessing that is the nyloc and not a prevailing torque nut/stover nut. I am in heated agreement concerning the c/s nut. I have Eagle Mike's and a 'Jake's NUT installed on my KLR's as well. smile. Thanks for reply. revmaaatin.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Khoury wrote: > > Axle nut sizes (on my '09) are: > > M14 Front > and > M16 Rear > > I measured them with calipers, and then verified them with the parts fische. I found a place selling them for $0.65 each in packages of 25. Quite a deal, I'd say... > > For the countershaft (an M20), I'd still go with the Eagle Mike product though. I've been informed that Nylocs are allergic to heat (makes sense) so I'd avoid their use on the countershaft. In addition to being prevailing-torque, the Eagle Mike unit has a recess milled into the base that goes past the end of the threads to snug up aftermarket sprockets, negating the need for spacers on the outside in some instances. I have one and I'm quite happy with it. > > -Jeff Khoury > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Khoury" > To: "revmaaatin" > Cc: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 10:32:23 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Stover Nut > > > > > > > > The only problem that I see with these is that the link you provided were all SAE sizes, no metrics were listed. Second, be aware of the finish, because the typical zinc plating on these nuts will chip and the nut will start to rust. I'd probably just go with a stainless nyloc nut instead: > > http://www.fullermetric.com/products/stainless/din985nylon_insert_lock_nut.html > > All you have to do is go out and see what size you need. Then order in bulk and sell 'em to all us KLRistas at a reasonable profit. > > -Jeff Khoury > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "revmaaatin" > To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 9:34:37 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Stover Nut > > > > > > > I was in our local tractor/ranch store tonight--called 'Runnings' > and found a container marked "Stover Nut" in their extensive nut/bolt selection. > > It looked a lot like a prevailing torque nut. > The Stover Nut had three signigicant 'impressions 120 degrees apart that made me think, 'this is a prevailing torque nut'. > > so google leads me here. > http://coburnmyers.thomasnet.com/viewitems/nuts/stover-lock-nuts > with this text: > SNIP > > A one-piece hex nut which derives its prevailing torque characteristics from controlled distortion of its top threads from their normal helical form to a more elliptical shape. > > Frequently used in farm machinery, plus in the automotive and metalworking industries. Can withstand severe vibration and shock loads. Reusable and can withstand temperatures of up to 450 F. > > unsnip. > > Needed to look at the axle nut, thread pitch, etal to see what our bike uses--but what was in the 'selection' were large nuts at a very afordable price: $1.25 each. Will have to look again when I get there again. > > revmaaatin. >

[Jeff Khoury]

#ygrps-yiv-1561842712 p {margin:0;}Rev, You are correct.  The $0.65 per was for stainless Nyloc nuts.  Maybe I should buy a bag of each and test them... -Jeff Khoury

----- Original Message ----- From: "revmaaatin" To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 8:03:15 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Stover Nut   Jeff-- Thanks for the measurements-- @.65/25parts, I am guessing that is the nyloc and not a prevailing torque nut/stover nut. I am in heated agreement concerning the c/s nut. I have Eagle Mike's and a 'Jake's NUT installed on my KLR's as well. smile. Thanks for reply. revmaaatin. --- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, Jeff Khoury wrote: > > Axle nut sizes (on my '09) are: > > M14 Front > and > M16 Rear > > I measured them with calipers, and then verified them with the parts fische. I found a place selling them for $0.65 each in packages of 25. Quite a deal, I'd say... > > For the countershaft (an M20), I'd still go with the Eagle Mike product though. I've been informed that Nylocs are allergic to heat (makes sense) so I'd avoid their use on the countershaft. In addition to being prevailing-torque, the Eagle Mike unit has a recess milled into the base that goes past the end of the threads to snug up aftermarket sprockets, negating the need for spacers on the outside in some instances. I have one and I'm quite happy with it. > > -Jeff Khoury > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Khoury" > To: "revmaaatin" > Cc: "DSN KLR650" > Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 10:32:23 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Stover Nut > > > > > > > > The only problem that I see with these is that the link you provided were all SAE sizes, no metrics were listed. Second, be aware of the finish, because the typical zinc plating on these nuts will chip and the nut will start to rust. I'd probably just go with a stainless nyloc nut instead: > > http://www.fullermetric.com/products/stainless/din985nylon_insert_lock_nut.html > > All you have to do is go out and see what size you need. Then order in bulk and sell 'em to all us KLRistas at a reasonable profit. > > -Jeff Khoury > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "revmaaatin" > To: "DSN KLR650" > Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 9:34:37 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Stover Nut > > > > > > > I was in our local tractor/ranch store tonight--called 'Runnings' > and found a container marked "Stover Nut" in their extensive nut/bolt selection. > > It looked a lot like a prevailing torque nut. > The Stover Nut had three signigicant 'impressions 120 degrees apart that made me think, 'this is a prevailing torque nut'. > > so google leads me here. > http://coburnmyers.thomasnet.com/viewitems/nuts/stover-lock-nuts > with this text: > SNIP > > A one-piece hex nut which derives its prevailing torque characteristics from controlled distortion of its top threads from their normal helical form to a more elliptical shape. > > Frequently used in farm machinery, plus in the automotive and metalworking industries. Can withstand severe vibration and shock loads. Reusable and can withstand temperatures of up to 450 F. > > unsnip. > > Needed to look at the axle nut, thread pitch, etal to see what our bike uses--but what was in the 'selection' were large nuts at a very afordable price: $1.25 each. Will have to look again when I get there again. > > revmaaatin. >

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Rather than replace the nut on my new KLR, I went to a local hardware store and bought a hitch pin sorta shaped like a bizarre musical trebel clef. A short piece of light, stainless steel wire secures it to the axle tensioner bolt. The pin not only fits the hole in the axle nicely, the shape has it clipping over the end of the axle with a little tension to keep it from rattling around. I might have a $1.50 in the whole setup and it was fun little project. eddie