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Chris Shepard
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2009 motor installed into a 2005

Post by Chris Shepard » Thu May 20, 2010 4:53 pm

I seized my 2005 KLR motor and then when I was coasting it down the backside of Saddleback Mtn in Orange County a kid in a full size Dodge Ram truck almost ran me over. I shattered my thumb in 6 places. 35 years of riding and I have never broken a bone and this was a "simple ride". Anyway, I have come across a 2009 motor. Has there been any issue trying to install a new one into the "old version" of the KLR? If my memory serves me correct, there were only refinements to the new motor but it was still the same base unit. Any input would be greatly appreciated! Kind Regards, Chris

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Post by roncriswell@sbcglobal.net » Thu May 20, 2010 6:23 pm

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Jeff Saline
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2009 motor installed into a 2005

Post by Jeff Saline » Thu May 20, 2010 6:46 pm

Chris, Bummer about the accident and seized motor. Hope the truck was insured and you're covered. As far as I know the engine will fit in but the ignition system is different. You can't swap stators as the fly wheels are different inside the engine. So from what I understand you must use the newer engine, ignition system and wiring harness to even have a chance. But I think it is doable. There is also some emission plumbing coming out of the head but I think you can just block it off. EagleMike might be making block off plates but I'm not sure about that. Good luck and let us know how it goes. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT <><><><><><><> <><><><><><><> On Thu, 20 May 2010 14:44:32 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Chris Shepard writes:
> I seized my 2005 KLR motor and then when I was coasting it down the > backside of Saddleback Mtn in Orange County a kid in a full size > Dodge Ram truck almost ran me over. I shattered my thumb in 6 > places. 35 years of riding and I have never broken a bone and this > was a "simple ride". > > Anyway, I have come across a 2009 motor. Has there been any issue > trying to install a new one into the "old version" of the KLR? If > my memory serves me correct, there were only refinements to the new > motor but it was still the same base unit. Any input would be > greatly appreciated! Kind Regards, Chris
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2009 motor installed into a 2005

Post by RobertWichert » Thu May 20, 2010 7:38 pm

This group just amazes me. It's as simple as that. If somebody asked "Does anybody know the escape velocity from the third moon of Jupiter and can a KLR 650 pull a Conestoga wagon up Pike's Peak?" there would be four or five correct answers within the hour. With a diagram. Amazing. Robert P. Wichert P.Eng +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ========================================================
On 5/20/2010 4:42 PM, Jeff Saline wrote: Chris, Bummer about the accident and seized motor. Hope the truck was insured and you're covered. As far as I know the engine will fit in but the ignition system is different. You can't swap stators as the fly wheels are different inside the engine. So from what I understand you must use the newer engine, ignition system and wiring harness to even have a chance. But I think it is doable. There is also some emission plumbing coming out of the head but I think you can just block it off. EagleMike might be making block off plates but I'm not sure about that. Good luck and let us know how it goes. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT <><><><><><><> <><><><><><><> On Thu, 20 May 2010 14:44:32 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Chris Shepard writes: > I seized my 2005 KLR motor and then when I was coasting it down the > backside of Saddleback Mtn in Orange County a kid in a full size > Dodge Ram truck almost ran me over. I shattered my thumb in 6 > places. 35 years of riding and I have never broken a bone and this > was a "simple ride". > > Anyway, I have come across a 2009 motor. Has there been any issue > trying to install a new one into the "old version" of the KLR? If > my memory serves me correct, there were only refinements to the new > motor but it was still the same base unit. Any input would be > greatly appreciated! Kind Regards, Chris . __________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4bf5c98842fa59eeb6m07vuc

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2009 motor installed into a 2005

Post by Jeff Saline » Thu May 20, 2010 8:03 pm

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Jeff Saline
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2009 motor installed into a 2005

Post by Jeff Saline » Thu May 20, 2010 10:48 pm

I think this was meant for the list too. If I recall correctly on KLR650 dot net I think a guy is currently having issues with trying to make a new engine work with the old ignition system and wiring harness. But I don't remember the thread that's talking about that. One drawback I think the newer engines/ignition systems have (but I don't know this for sure) is you need a battery for the ignition to work. Older models can be started without a battery but I think new models either need a battery or they won't spark. Maybe someone on the list here knows for sure or can try to bump start their newer KLR without a battery connected and let us know if it works or not. Best, Jeff --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Jeffrey" To: Jeff Saline Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 03:03:45 -0000 Subject: Re: 2009 motor installed into a 2005 Message-ID: ht4t6h+sl2o@egroups.com> The wiring harnesses might not be that different. Though I haven't examined a 2009. If the 2009 doesn't have a computer nor have an oxygen sensor or other different sensors, then you might be able to adapt without too much difficulty. Though obviously if you can find a used 2009 wiring harness that would be the simpler/cheaper way to go. I know an "electrical mechanic" if you are stuck and need to check further into modifying. Jeffrey #3
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote: > > Chris, > > Bummer about the accident and seized motor. Hope the truck was insured > and you're covered. > > As far as I know the engine will fit in but the ignition system is > different. You can't swap stators as the fly wheels are different inside > the engine. So from what I understand you must use the newer engine, > ignition system and wiring harness to even have a chance. But I think it > is doable. There is also some emission plumbing coming out of the head > but I think you can just block it off. EagleMike might be making block > off plates but I'm not sure about that. > > Good luck and let us know how it goes. > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > <><><><><><><> > <><><><><><><> > On Thu, 20 May 2010 14:44:32 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Chris Shepard > writes: > > I seized my 2005 KLR motor and then when I was coasting it down the > > backside of Saddleback Mtn in Orange County a kid in a full size > > Dodge Ram truck almost ran me over. I shattered my thumb in 6 > > places. 35 years of riding and I have never broken a bone and this > > was a "simple ride". > > > > Anyway, I have come across a 2009 motor. Has there been any issue > > trying to install a new one into the "old version" of the KLR? If > > my memory serves me correct, there were only refinements to the new > > motor but it was still the same base unit. Any input would be > > greatly appreciated! Kind Regards, Chris > > . > ____________________________________________________________ > Penny Stock Jumping 2000% > Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4bf5c98842fa59eeb6m07vuc >

Jeff Saline
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2009 motor installed into a 2005

Post by Jeff Saline » Thu May 20, 2010 10:49 pm

I think this was meant for the list. Best, Jeff --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Jud" To: Jeff Saline Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 02:50:18 -0000 Subject: Re: 2009 motor installed into a 2005 Message-ID: ht4sda+rqjk@egroups.com> Robert, Jeff's funnin' ya about the Conestoga. You just hook 'er up and go.
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote: > > Robert, > > Escape velocity from the third moon of Jupiter is actually a negative > speed. Using the gravitational pull of the third moon you can accelerate > to escape velocity and by-pass the third moon and use the gravitational > pull of the fourth moon to help with the escape. That's all assuming you > are on the dark side of the moon. Heat shields should be deployed for > best results. > > A KLR650 can pull a Conestoga wagon up Pike's Peak during daylight hours > between May 31st and August 30th each year. But only if the KLR650 is in > good tune with a new aggressive rear tire using a rim lock between 165 > and 180 degrees away from the valve stem. A tow strap more than 7 and > less than 12.6 feet long is needed to keep the weight distribution > between the front and rear wheels at the optimal ratio. If you have the > air pressure high enough to match the hardness of the wagon wheels it > will pull the best. Use first gear to get started and speed shift to no > higher than third to reach maximum sustainable velocity and continued > movement. A Thermo-Bob and fresh doohickey will complete the best tow > bike set up. > > You're welcome, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > On Thu, 20 May 2010 17:37:45 -0700 RobertWichert > writes: > > > This group just amazes me. It's as simple as that. > > If somebody asked "Does anybody know the escape velocity from the third > moon of Jupiter and can a KLR 650 pull a Conestoga wagon up Pike's Peak?" > there would be four or five correct answers within the hour. > > With a diagram. > > > Amazing. > > > Robert P. Wichert P.Eng > +1 916 966 9060 > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > . > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! > http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210 > ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4bf60279d63daa010fm07vuc

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