power loss at speed

[rhino4770]

I just sold my '03 w/ 30,000 miles on it. I changed the oil regularly(+/-3500m),dealt with minor problems(sprocket/chain) battery, electrical, etc. What should the new owner do for preventative maintenance/safety? (the Doo is done) I want him to get another 30.000 wonderful miles out of the beast! After a few early off-road missteps I used it mainly as a commuter with mild forays onto logging trails, etc. I'll pass on the input and of course the link to this invaluable and long enjoyable list! best, jim.

[Jeff Saline]

On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:27:01 -0000 "rhino4770" writes:

> I just sold my '03 w/ 30,000 miles on it. I changed the oil > regularly(+/-3500m),dealt with minor problems(sprocket/chain) > battery, electrical, etc. What should the new owner do for > preventative maintenance/safety? (the Doo is done) I want him to get > another 30.000 wonderful miles out of the beast! After a few early > off-road missteps I used it mainly as a commuter with mild forays > onto logging trails, etc. I'll pass on the input and of course the > link to this invaluable and long enjoyable list! best, jim.

<><><><><><><> <><><><><><><> jim, It's probably worth changing the coolant, greasing the rear suspension and the steering head bearings and changing the fork oil and maybe the replacing the rear shock. Also might be worth considering replacing the air filter if it's the original. I like the No Toil air filter and filter maintenance products as they are easy to use and environmentally friendly. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT . ____________________________________________________________ Love Spell Click here to light up your life with a love spell! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=1RgGG4-r6xXz_gmeSvRH7gAAJ1DWfJIDP-R0_NC3mMpGFS0kAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARwAAAAA=

[SM]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote:

> Also might be worth considering replacing the > air filter if it's the original.

I change my air filter element after about 4 or 5 cleanings. So, about every 5,000 miles at the most, certainly not 30,000. Is it just me or is that absurd? Thanks CA Stu

[Jeff Khoury]

#ygrps-yiv-392078669 p {margin:0;}I clean mine until it looks like it needs to be replaced, that is: if it is looking ratty.  Conventional wisdom says clean it once, then replace.  I hate replacing perfectly good parts if they can be cleaned and re-used. I don't usually make note of how many miles are on it when I replace it.  A one year-old filter with 30 Kilomiles is completely different than a 5 year-old filter with 30 Kilomiles, IMHO. -Jeff Khoury Astatic Solutions, LLC.

----- Original Message ----- From: "SM" To: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, March 1, 2010 4:27:09 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: 30,000 miles   --- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote: > Also might be worth considering replacing the > air filter if it's the original. I change my air filter element after about 4 or 5 cleanings. So, about every 5,000 miles at the most, certainly not 30,000. Is it just me or is that absurd? Thanks CA Stu

[John Biccum]

When my OEM filter started looking ratty after a three or four solvent washings and reoilings I switched to  a No Toil filter and No Toil oil.  After 10 washes in water and10  re oiling cycles the No Toil filter looks still  like new. I wonder if the cause of failure  of the OEM filter is the solvent?

On 3/1/2010 4:27 PM, SM wrote:   I change my air filter element after about 4 or 5 cleanings. So, about every 5,000 miles at the most, certainly not 30,000. Is it just me or is that absurd? Thanks CA Stu

[Jeff Khoury]

#ygrps-yiv-137849508 p {margin:0;}I use a highly advanced, super-motorcycle-specific solvent. Concentrated DAWN dish soap. -Jeff Khoury

----- Original Message ----- From: "John Biccum" To: "SM" Cc: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, March 1, 2010 5:26:48 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: 30,000 miles   When my OEM filter started looking ratty after a three or four solvent washings and reoilings I switched to  a No Toil filter and No Toil oil.  After 10 washes in water and10  re oiling cycles the No Toil filter looks still  like new. I wonder if the cause of failure  of the OEM filter is the solvent? On 3/1/2010 4:27 PM, SM wrote: [quote]  I change my air filter element after about 4 or 5 cleanings. So, about every 5,000 miles at the most, certainly not 30,000. Is it just me or is that absurd? Thanks CA Stu

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[skypilot110]

KLR Rider; But Madge, is that air filter cleaner gental enough for my skin? Madge; It sure is, in fact your soaking in it! Agreed, a pan of soapy dish water works as long as the oil you are using isnt the un removable stuff from K&N. Not sure how the Kawasaki branded stuff is but I've heard it is awful close to the Notoil

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Khoury wrote: > > I use a highly advanced, super-motorcycle-specific solvent. > > Concentrated DAWN dish soap. >

[Jeff Saline]

On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:02:36 -0000 "skypilot110" writes:

> Agreed, a pan of soapy dish water works as long as the oil you are > using isnt the un removable stuff from K&N. Not sure how the > Kawasaki branded stuff is but I've heard it is awful close to the > Notoil

<><><><><><> <><><><><><> chris, The Kawasaki air filter maintenance products are No Toil with a Kawasaki label. Same for the Honda brand. Dish soap will not remove it and neither will gasoline. Using the cleaner will remove it without effort and you can even clean a No Toil treated filter in a sink, washing machine, zip lock bag etc. But if you try to clean it and don't have the No Toil cleaner it's going to make a mess. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT . ____________________________________________________________ Home Improvement Projects Do it right the first time. Click to find contractors to work on your home improvement project. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=5sYikx4RqhV04fAHJRPGbQAAJ1DWfJIDP-R0_NC3mMpGFS0kAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAShAAAAAA=

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#ygrps-yiv-573401972 p {margin:0;}  

Jeff's right. Dawn works safely on foam. (or else dish sponges would die early deaths!)   Dawn also makes a product call "Power Dissolver" in a blue, hand pump spray bottle. It was designed to remove baked-on crud from casserole dishes, etc... and still not be toxic or hard on your hands. It'll take out greasy stains from clothes and not harm the fabric, too. In fact, I once ran a fork tube covered in oily crap from a leaking seal through the parts washer at the bike shop and it was pretty clean. Then I sprayed the Dawn product on it, let 'er sit for a min. or too and then gave it a good rinse with water. The fork looked nearly new afterward. It might take some serious water rinsing to get it out of a foam air filter element. But, I believe it would wash it safely clean, too.   eddie     ----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] jeff@... [b]To: [/b]johnbiccum@... [b]Cc: [/b]DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com; s2mumford@... [b]Sent:[/b] 3/1/2010 8:48:28 PM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: 30,000 miles I use a highly advanced, super-motorcycle-specific solvent. Concentrated DAWN dish soap. -Jeff Khoury ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Biccum" To: "SM" Cc: "DSN KLR650" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, March 1, 2010 5:26:48 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: 30,000 miles   When my OEM filter started looking ratty after a three or four solvent washings and reoilings I switched to  a No Toil filter and No Toil oil.  After 10 washes in water and10  re oiling cycles the No Toil filter looks still  like new. I wonder if the cause of failure  of the OEM filter is the solvent? On 3/1/2010 4:27 PM, SM wrote: [quote]  I change my air filter element after about 4 or 5 cleanings. So, about every 5,000 miles at the most, certainly not 30,000. Is it just me or is that absurd? Thanks CA Stu

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[Thomas Komjathy]

My experience with the foam filter oils is; they tend to get way to tacky and are a PITA to clean. I use a heavy weight motor oil and yes, a pan of dish soap and warm water, cleans them up nicely. The last one I did for a customer, the filter was so tacky, the foam would tear as I pulled my hand away from it. They were using a manufacturers recommended filter oil. The small amount that dripped onto the swing arm, wouldn't come off with Kerosene, WD-40, or alcohol, I  had to scrape the stuff off and finish up with acetone. TK [b]From:[/b] skypilot110 [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Tue, March 2, 2010 6:02:36 AM [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Re: 30,000 miles   KLR Rider; But Madge, is that air filter cleaner gental enough for my skin? Madge; It sure is, in fact your soaking in it! Agreed, a pan of soapy dish water works as long as the oil you are using isnt the un removable stuff from K&N. Not sure how the Kawasaki branded stuff is but I've heard it is awful close to the Notoil

--- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, Jeff Khoury wrote: > > I use a highly advanced, super-motorcycle- specific solvent. > > Concentrated DAWN dish soap. >