no-toil

[D Critchley]

I ordered a pair of 1450 cases for the '08, and then sent a message to Tim at Happy Trails about the mounts. The result was that I got back a note from Happy Trails telling me what I needed at $50, (this goes on 3/4 inch square tube racks), which are now ordered. Total price about $320 all up. ******A note for Canadian KLRistas. I checked prices at a bunch of places on the net, and although the prices were lower than Custom Case in Ontario, some of the shipping fees were lethal. One company had low pricing, but the shipping fees were $138 US !!!. Custom Case shipping fees are zero, this could be a special, but worth checking if you are in the market. That should be at least useful info for those of us that are allergic to the cost of aluminium cases. DC

[jokerloco9@aol.com]

I have been reading posts for the past few years that talk about aluminum panniers and other ideas, such as Pelican cases. I have to ask, what is the fascination with hard cases? Security? On a motorcycle? I don't think so. I had hard cases on a Goldwing I had some years back. I remember always having trouble fitting stuff in them. I have a Nelson-Rigg nylon bag with about 5 side pouches, that expands to hold 2-4 bags of groceries or a helmet, straps down to the KLR rear rack with included nylon straps, weighs a couple of pounds, and cost something like $60 a couple years ago. The panniers are heavy, expensive, and because of their size, limit you to what you can have in them. I have a few Pelicans for my high dollar target pistols, but they are ridiculous overkill for a motorcycle. Those cases weigh something close to 10 pounds a piece, and more weight for the racks to hold them. Don't forget that once you drill holes on those Pelican cases, you kill any resale value. I, personally, think that the panniers I usually see used on KLR's look stupid. Clearly, the aluminum panniers I have seen, as well as the pelicans, don't look stock, and look mickey-mouse. Why don't we all strap milk crates to the rear of our bikes, just like we did in the old days? What is so wrong about a few nylon bags? At least they are easy to remove. No wrenches required. Jeff A20 In a message dated 7/9/2009 1:00:14 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pentax@... writes: I ordered a pair of 1450 cases for the '08, and then sent a message to Tim at Happy Trails about the mounts. The result was that I got back a note from Happy Trails telling me what I needed at $50, (this goes on 3/4 inch square tube racks), which are now ordered. Total price about $320 all up. ******A note for Canadian KLRistas. I checked prices at a bunch of places on the net, and although the prices were lower than Custom Case in Ontario, some of the shipping fees were lethal. One company had low pricing, but the shipping fees were $138 US !!!. Custom Case shipping fees are zero, this could be a special, but worth checking if you are in the market. That should be at least useful info for those of us that are allergic to the cost of aluminium cases. DC **************Dell Studio XPS Desktop: Save up to $400 - Limited Time Offer (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222466512x1201463496/aol?redir=htt p:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D3) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[jokerloco9@aol.com]

In case anybody cares, here is a link to what looks like the nylon bag I have on the rear of my 06 KLR. Works great. _http://motorcycle-luggage.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Co de=MLCL-800&Category_Code=Nelson-Rigg&Product_Count=43_ (http://motorcycle-luggage.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=MLCL-800&Category _Code=Nelson-Rigg&Product_Count=43) Jeff A20 In a message dated 7/9/2009 1:00:14 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pentax@... writes: I ordered a pair of 1450 cases for the '08, and then sent a message to Tim at Happy Trails about the mounts. The result was that I got back a note from Happy Trails telling me what I needed at $50, (this goes on 3/4 inch square tube racks), which are now ordered. Total price about $320 all up. ******A note for Canadian KLRistas. I checked prices at a bunch of places on the net, and although the prices were lower than Custom Case in Ontario, some of the shipping fees were lethal. One company had low pricing, but the shipping fees were $138 US !!!. Custom Case shipping fees are zero, this could be a special, but worth checking if you are in the market. That should be at least useful info for those of us that are allergic to the cost of aluminium cases. DC **************Dell Studio XPS Desktop: Save up to $400 - Limited Time Offer (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222466512x1201463496/aol?redir=htt p:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D3) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Darren Clark]

Very nice. I just ordered a pair of 1440 cases (they open from the top) for my '04, for $270 with shipping. I'll get them tomorrow. I'll make my own racks to mount them to the bike. I've had some people tell me not to do it because they're too big, and will look like a pair of garbage cans on my bike, but it's my bike. I can take them off and put them back on again, and I'm sick of wearing a backpack to haul my junk around. D Critchley wrote:

> I ordered a pair of 1450 cases for the '08, and then sent a message to > Tim at Happy Trails about the mounts. > The result was that I got back a note from Happy Trails telling me what > I needed at $50, (this goes on 3/4 inch square tube racks), which are > now ordered. Total price about $320 all up. > ******A note for Canadian KLRistas. I checked prices at a bunch of > places on the net, and although the prices were lower than Custom Case > in Ontario, some of the shipping fees were lethal. One company had low > pricing, but the shipping fees were $138 US !!!. Custom Case shipping > fees are zero, this could be a special, but worth checking if you are in > the market. > That should be at least useful info for those of us that are allergic to > the cost of aluminium cases. > DC > > > ------------------------------------ > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >

-- Darren Clark http://www.flickr.com/photos/84373829@N00/ 2004 KLR-650 Fowlerville, MI [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[dooden]

Depends on riders needs I reckon. I do not tour, but do have a Radio pack, sorry not sure what Army called the field radio, but it has a large main compartment, with pockets inside it, and pretty large pockets on the outside. Can fit alot of stuff in it. Stuffed full its still not as wide as my tent strapped to the rack. If I were to tour long distance, I would be looking at a different bike. Dooden A15 Green Ape

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, jokerloco9@... wrote: > > I have been reading posts for the past few years that talk about aluminum > panniers and other ideas, such as Pelican cases. I have to ask, what is > the fascination with hard cases? Security? On a motorcycle? I don't think > so. I had hard cases on a Goldwing I had some years back. I remember > always having trouble fitting stuff in them. I have a Nelson-Rigg nylon bag > with about 5 side pouches, that expands to hold 2-4 bags of groceries or a > helmet, straps down to the KLR rear rack with included nylon straps, weighs a > couple of pounds, and cost something like $60 a couple years ago. > > The panniers are heavy, expensive, and because of their size, limit you to > what you can have in them. I have a few Pelicans for my high dollar target > pistols, but they are ridiculous overkill for a motorcycle. Those cases > weigh something close to 10 pounds a piece, and more weight for the racks to > hold them. Don't forget that once you drill holes on those Pelican cases, > you kill any resale value. > > I, personally, think that the panniers I usually see used on KLR's look > stupid. Clearly, the aluminum panniers I have seen, as well as the pelicans, > don't look stock, and look mickey-mouse. Why don't we all strap milk > crates to the rear of our bikes, just like we did in the old days? > > What is so wrong about a few nylon bags? At least they are easy to > remove. No wrenches required. > > Jeff A20 > > > In a message dated 7/9/2009 1:00:14 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > pentax@... writes: > > > > > > I ordered a pair of 1450 cases for the '08, and then sent a message to > Tim at Happy Trails about the mounts. > The result was that I got back a note from Happy Trails telling me what > I needed at $50, (this goes on 3/4 inch square tube racks), which are > now ordered. Total price about $320 all up. > ******A note for Canadian KLRistas. I checked prices at a bunch of > places on the net, and although the prices were lower than Custom Case > in Ontario, some of the shipping fees were lethal. One company had low > pricing, but the shipping fees were $138 US !!!. Custom Case shipping > fees are zero, this could be a special, but worth checking if you are in > the market. > That should be at least useful info for those of us that are allergic to > the cost of aluminium cases. > DC > > > > > **************Dell Studio XPS Desktop: Save up to $400 - Limited Time Offer > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222466512x1201463496/aol?redir=htt > p:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D3) > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[AR Cooper]

According to the directions, it can be applied to a used filter IF it is properly cleaned wash and dried. The alcohol in the carrier seems to dissolve the glue that holds the foam pieces together.

----- Original Message ----- From: Dooden To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 2:01 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: No-Toil I believe with No-Toil it has to be applied to a new clean filter that is not covered with normal oil. I could be wrong however, and surprise surprise it would not be the first time. Dooden A15 Green Ape --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "AR Cooper" wrote: > > Either on this list or one of the boards, I read of problems with No-Toil > and air filteToil cleaner. Fortunately I have another filter and will > No-Toil it. Is this a problem of all filters or just the stock ones? > > Al Cooper > Medina, Oh > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]