re: mounting happy trails cans

[steventbarnett]

I just returned from riding 15000 miles through South America and on the trip lost three master chain link clips. Two shops told me this never happens, and that they would put the clip on right so that it didn't come off... until it did. Fortunately the master link didn't come out before I discovered it when I was cleaning/lubing the chain. Yes, I put the clip on in the right direction. This happened on two different chains. So what is the best way to make sure that I don't lose the next clip?

[Jeff Saline]

On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:00:06 -0000 "steventbarnett" writes:

> I just returned from riding 15000 miles through South America and on > the trip lost three master chain link clips. Two shops told me this > never happens, and that they would put the clip on right so that it > didn't come off... until it did. Fortunately the master link didn't > come out before I discovered it when I was cleaning/lubing the > chain. > > Yes, I put the clip on in the right direction. This happened on two > different chains. So what is the best way to make sure that I don't > lose the next clip?

<><><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><><> Steven, This should cost you a ride report as it sounds like you've had an interesting trip. : ) What works well for me is cleaning the side plate and clip with acetone on a rag. Once the side plate has been pressed over the pins I install the clip with the closed end heading in the direction of chain rotation. Then I pull the side plate tight to the clip. Final step is to put a dab of RTV on the clip and allow it to cure. I haven't had an issue with a lost clip since using this method. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT . ____________________________________________________________ Improve your driving ability with a stop at traffic school. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTMLIqhhkquHhudH2ibrMVADzRjnZOn7ShQoQqsHrOofU9wLYjJJuQ/

[Walter Mitty]

The easiest way is to use a rivet style master link. I went to Prudoe Bay and back and didn't lose a single one.

--- On Sat, 3/14/09, steventbarnett wrote: From: steventbarnett Subject: [DSN_KLR650] How can I keep from losing master chain link clips To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, March 14, 2009, 5:00 AM I just returned from riding 15000 miles through South America and on the trip lost three master chain link clips. Two shops told me this never happens, and that they would put the clip on right so that it didn't come off... until it did. Fortunately the master link didn't come out before I discovered it when I was cleaning/lubing the chain. Yes, I put the clip on in the right direction. This happened on two different chains. So what is the best way to make sure that I don't lose the next clip? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[E Hines]

I have been putting some RTV on my KLR and used to use it on my desert race bike (back in the late 70's and early 80's). I have not lost a clip since doing this. ________________________________ From: Jeff Saline To: newsletters@... Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 8:05:36 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] How can I keep from losing master chain link clips On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:00:06 -0000 "steventbarnett" writes:

> I just returned from riding 15000 miles through South America and on > the trip lost three master chain link clips. Two shops told me this > never happens, and that they would put the clip on right so that it > didn't come off... until it did. Fortunately the master link didn't > come out before I discovered it when I was cleaning/lubing the > chain. > > Yes, I put the clip on in the right direction. This happened on two > different chains. So what is the best way to make sure that I don't > lose the next clip?

<><><><><><> <><><> <><><><><><> <><><> Steven, This should cost you a ride report as it sounds like you've had an interesting trip. : ) What works well for me is cleaning the side plate and clip with acetone on a rag. Once the side plate has been pressed over the pins I install the clip with the closed end heading in the direction of chain rotation. Then I pull the side plate tight to the clip. Final step is to put a dab of RTV on the clip and allow it to cure. I haven't had an issue with a lost clip since using this method. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads. org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT . ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Improve your driving ability with a stop at traffic school. Click now! http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ fc/BLSrjpTMLIqhh kquHhudH2ibrMVAD zRjnZOn7ShQoQqsH rOofU9wLYjJJuQ/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Don Montgomery]

There was an article recently email to me on just this topic, since I lost two going to/from Prudoe Bay, but the side plate stayed on. I had the closed end toward the direction of chain travel, but not RTVed. The side palte was a channel lock plier clamped force fit. I began RTVing the clips and have not lost one since. What was pointed out in the article was that the clips are cut from sheet steel with a die press and one side has rounded edges and one side has sharp edges. The article recommended sharp edges face *outward* which would put the sharp edge on the exit side. If the slightly rounded edge is outward there is a better chance for the clip to get jacked out of the groove it clips into. I'll now RTV with sharp side out! Belt & suspenders on, Don M

----- Original Message ----- From: "steventbarnett" To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 8:00 AM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] How can I keep from losing master chain link clips >I just returned from riding 15000 miles through South America and on the >trip lost three master chain link clips. Two shops told me this never >happens, and that they would put the clip on right so that it didn't come >off... until it did. Fortunately the master link didn't come out before I >discovered it when I was cleaning/lubing the chain. > > Yes, I put the clip on in the right direction. This happened on two > different chains. So what is the best way to make sure that I don't lose > the next clip? > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

[Kurt Grife]

Same here, I'm now using a bit of Goop adhesive which seems to be even better. Haven't lost a clip in many years.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, E Hines wrote: > > I have been putting some RTV on my KLR and used to use it on my desert race bike (back in the late 70's and early 80's). I have not lost a clip since doing this. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Jeff Saline > To: newsletters@... > Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 8:05:36 AM > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] How can I keep from losing master chain link clips > > > On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:00:06 -0000 "steventbarnett" > writes: > > I just returned from riding 15000 miles through South America and on > > the trip lost three master chain link clips. Two shops told me this > > never happens, and that they would put the clip on right so that it > > didn't come off... until it did. Fortunately the master link didn't > > come out before I discovered it when I was cleaning/lubing the > > chain. > > > > Yes, I put the clip on in the right direction. This happened on two > > different chains. So what is the best way to make sure that I don't > > lose the next clip? > <><><><><><> <><><> > <><><><><><> <><><> > > Steven, > > This should cost you a ride report as it sounds like you've had an > interesting trip. : ) > > What works well for me is cleaning the side plate and clip with acetone > on a rag. Once the side plate has been pressed over the pins I install > the clip with the closed end heading in the direction of chain rotation. > Then I pull the side plate tight to the clip. Final step is to put a dab > of RTV on the clip and allow it to cure. > > I haven't had an issue with a lost clip since using this method. > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads. org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > . > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Improve your driving ability with a stop at traffic school. Click now! > http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ fc/BLSrjpTMLIqhh kquHhudH2ibrMVAD zRjnZOn7ShQoQqsH rOofU9wLYjJJuQ/ > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[jokerloco9@aol.com]

There is a simple, guaranteed way to never lose a master link clip again............................. Stop using them. Get a rivet on link, and never fool around with it again. If that chain comes off at the wrong time, it can make you crash. Carry the tool to r/r a rivret link if you must go cross country if it makes you feel better. But of course, carry a spare link if you break a chain (highly unlikely with the KLR's prodigious HP) Jeff A20 In a message dated 3/14/2009 4:57:20 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Krgrife@... writes: Same here, I'm now using a bit of Goop adhesive which seems to be even better. Haven't lost a clip in many years. --- In _DSN_KLR650@yahoogroDSN_KLR_ (mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com) , E Hines wrote:

> > I have been putting some RTV on my KLR and used to use it on my desert

race bike (back in the late 70's and early 80's). I have not lost a clip since doing this.

> > > > > ____________ ____ ____ > From: Jeff Saline > To: newsletters@ To > Cc: _DSN_KLR650@yahoogroDSN_KLR_ (mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com) > Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 8:05:36 AM > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] How can I keep from losing master chain link

clips

> > > On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:00:06 -0000 "steventbarnett" > writes: > > I just returned from riding 15000 miles through South America and on > > the trip lost three master chain link clips. Two shops told me this > > never happens, and that they would put the clip on right so that it > > didn't come off... until it did. Fortunately the master link didn't > > come out before I discovered it when I was cleaning/lubing the > > chain. > > > > Yes, I put the clip on in the right direction. This happened on two > > different chains. So what is the best way to make sure that I don't > > lose the next clip? > <><><><><><> <><><> > <><><><><><> <><><> > > Steven, > > This should cost you a ride report as it sounds like you've had an > interesting trip. : ) > > What works well for me is cleaning the side plate and clip with acetone > on a rag. Once the side plate has been pressed over the pins I install > the clip with the closed end heading in the direction of chain rotation. > Then I pull the side plate tight to the clip. Final step is to put a dab > of RTV on the clip and allow it to cure. > > I haven't had an issue with a lost clip since using this method. > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads. org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > . > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Improve your driving ability with a stop at traffic school. Click now! > _http://thirdpartyof_ (http://thirdpartyof/) fers.juno. com/TGL2141/

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[roncriswell@sbcglobal.net]

Rivet, RRRivet, RRRRRivet .......... Rivet clips. Criswell

On Mar 14, 2009, at 11:39 AM, E Hines wrote: > I have been putting some RTV on my KLR and used to use it on my > desert race bike (back in the late 70's and early 80's). I have > not lost a clip since doing this. > > ________________________________ > From: Jeff Saline > To: newsletters@... > Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 8:05:36 AM > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] How can I keep from losing master chain > link clips > > On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:00:06 -0000 "steventbarnett" > writes: > > I just returned from riding 15000 miles through South America and on > > the trip lost three master chain link clips. Two shops told me this > > never happens, and that they would put the clip on right so that it > > didn't come off... until it did. Fortunately the master link didn't > > come out before I discovered it when I was cleaning/lubing the > > chain. > > > > Yes, I put the clip on in the right direction. This happened on two > > different chains. So what is the best way to make sure that I don't > > lose the next clip? > <><><><><><> <><><> > <><><><><><> <><><> > > Steven, > > This should cost you a ride report as it sounds like you've had an > interesting trip. : ) > > What works well for me is cleaning the side plate and clip with > acetone > on a rag. Once the side plate has been pressed over the pins I install > the clip with the closed end heading in the direction of chain > rotation. > Then I pull the side plate tight to the clip. Final step is to put > a dab > of RTV on the clip and allow it to cure. > > I haven't had an issue with a lost clip since using this method. > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads. org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > . > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Improve your driving ability with a stop at traffic school. Click now! > http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ fc/BLSrjpTMLIqhh > kquHhudH2ibrMVAD zRjnZOn7ShQoQqsH rOofU9wLYjJJuQ/ > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[dooden]

I think you might have pointed to the obvious reason clips are lost, that is the first time I think I have seen somebody mention sharp edge outward. Never thought to point that out, just kinda figured everybody knew that. Recap: Sharp edge outward Closed end in the direction of travel Give pins a push in with pliers to seat the clip tight Buy Extra Master Links and keep on bike (Handlebar pouch works nice) RTV I reckon can't hurt ( yet to ever do this however ) Did I miss anything ? Dooden A15 Green Ape

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Don Montgomery" wrote: > > There was an article recently email to me on just this topic, since I lost > two going to/from Prudoe Bay, but the side plate stayed on. I had the closed > end toward the direction of chain travel, but not RTVed. The side palte was > a channel lock plier clamped force fit. I began RTVing the clips and have > not lost one since. What was pointed out in the article was that the clips > are cut from sheet steel with a die press and one side has rounded edges and > one side has sharp edges. The article recommended sharp edges face *outward* > which would put the sharp edge on the exit side. If the slightly rounded > edge is outward there is a better chance for the clip to get jacked out of > the groove it clips into. I'll now RTV with sharp side out! > > Belt & suspenders on, > Don M > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "steventbarnett" > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 8:00 AM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] How can I keep from losing master chain link clips > > > >I just returned from riding 15000 miles through South America and on the > >trip lost three master chain link clips. Two shops told me this never > >happens, and that they would put the clip on right so that it didn't come > >off... until it did. Fortunately the master link didn't come out before I > >discovered it when I was cleaning/lubing the chain. > > > > Yes, I put the clip on in the right direction. This happened on two > > different chains. So what is the best way to make sure that I don't lose > > the next clip? > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

[Bogdan Swider]

On 3/14/09 6:00 AM, "steventbarnett" wrote:

> > > > I just returned from riding 15000 miles through South America and on the trip > lost three master chain link clips. Two shops told me this never happens, and > that they would put the clip on right so that it didn't come off... until it > did. Fortunately the master link didn't come out before I discovered it when > I was cleaning/lubing the chain. > > Yes, I put the clip on in the right direction. This happened on two different > chains. So what is the best way to make sure that I don't lose the next clip? > > > As Ron so aptly put it.....RRRivet. I also lost two far away from home, > one in Mexico, the other in Arizona. The last one was even reinforced with > wire. I have the dealer ship, here in town, I buy the chains from rivet the > link on; they don t charge me for this task. I haven't found a cheap rivet > tool and don t want to spend close to $100 on something I ll only use every > 20k miles or so. Installing a closed chain is no big deal because I do the > swing arm maintenance when I change chains so everything is apart anyway. No, > I don t find any reason to carry any extra links or chain tools on long trips. > > Bogdan

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