top safe speed?

[Bob Monahan]

KLR Geeks, I'm a bit frustrated. I ride with several different friends that have Dual Sport bikes and none of them have an intercom system so we can talk bike to bike without raising our shields and yelling or stopping and removing our helmets to carry on a conversation. I thought I'd just google my way to a simple modular system that I could suggest others get also or something I could loan people I ride with but I quickly found that it's not as simple as I had hoped. Helmets are as different as night and day and intercoms are as varied as my wife's shoe collection... I have a list of things that I consider important to an intercom system that is intuitive to use and inexpensive and modular enough to loan to others and have a reasonable expectation of them being able to use it. First is the radio itself. Each rider should have one and it should have a range of at least a mile so if you're riding together and get separated it's easy to reconnect without having to resort to cell phones. One type of radio that seems easy to buy and use are CB radios which are moderately priced and have fantastic range but are prone to static and bleed over from truckers using high powered linear amps and skip (sun spot problems). The more obvious choice is the FRS radio that you can buy at places like Wal-Mart for less than $25 and they have moderately good range and aren't prone to static or bleed over unless you're really really close to other users. Even the cheapest of them will easily talk a mile down a road or across areas that are moderately cluttered with woods or buildings. If you get one wet and ruin it they're very cheap to replace so they seem to be the obvious choice. Their only downside is in heavily populated areas the channels can be quite busy. You can easily put one in a shirt or jacket pocket or get fancy and mount it on handlebars. I'm thinking that I'd like the radio that I use to connect via Bluetooth to my helmet and be hands free except when I need to change channels or something other than talk and/or listen to someone on the same channel. I'm thinking that VOX activation of the transmit on a radio will be problematic on a motorcycle because of ambient noise. Does anyone have any ideas how to fix that ussue? That was the easy part. Now I need to select the Bluetooth adaptor for me and a loaner system for other peoples helmets. I'm thinking that an ear bud would be nice to loan out or convince my cheapskate buddies to buy so ANYONE could use it on a motorcycle or possibly a headset with a boom that has a very low profile so it slips inside a helmet and wouldn't get destroyed as you don or remove your helmet. Does anyone use a system now and if so can you please tell us what you do and don't like about the one(s) you use or have used? $bob$ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Arden Kysely]

If you're not getting any wobble, I'd say the top safe speed is as fast as you can get it to go. Which will be somewhere around 100 mph, probably less unless you're on a nice downhill with a tailwind. You'll want a tire with at least an R speed rating if you're going to experiment much. I saw (as on the speedo) 105 on my first KLR on a long downhill, with luggage. Given a 10% speedo error, that's maybe 95. __Arden

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Charlie Y" wrote: > snippp...> > What is a "Safe" top speed of the KLR? 90, 100, does anybody know, > she began to feel a little unstable at 80 I found , but there was > some wind at the time. 80 felt pretty safe...... > > I surely did not buy this bike for speed. But is FUN to be able to go > fast once in a while! Buckets Full of TORQUE! andy >

[Jud Jones]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Monahan" wrote:

> > KLR Geeks, > > > > I'm a bit frustrated. I ride with several different friends that have Dual > Sport bikes and none of them have an intercom system so we can talk bike to > bike without raising our shields and yelling or stopping and removing our > helmets to carry on a conversation. > > > > I thought I'd just google my way to a simple modular system that I could > suggest others get also or something I could loan people I ride with but I > quickly found that it's not as simple as I had hoped. > > > > Helmets are as different as night and day and intercoms are as varied as my > wife's shoe collection... > > > > I have a list of things that I consider important to an intercom system that > is intuitive to use and inexpensive and modular enough to loan to others and > have a reasonable expectation of them being able to use it. > > > > First is the radio itself. > > > > Each rider should have one and it should have a range of at least a mile so > if you're riding together and get separated it's easy to reconnect without > having to resort to cell phones. > > > > One type of radio that seems easy to buy and use are CB radios which are > moderately priced and have fantastic range but are prone to static and bleed > over from truckers using high powered linear amps and skip (sun spot > problems). > > > > The more obvious choice is the FRS radio that you can buy at places like > Wal-Mart for less than $25 and they have moderately good range and aren't > prone to static or bleed over unless you're really really close to other > users. Even the cheapest of them will easily talk a mile down a road or > across areas that are moderately cluttered with woods or buildings. If you > get one wet and ruin it they're very cheap to replace so they seem to be the > obvious choice. Their only downside is in heavily populated areas the > channels can be quite busy. > > > > You can easily put one in a shirt or jacket pocket or get fancy and mount it > on handlebars. > > > > I'm thinking that I'd like the radio that I use to connect via Bluetooth to > my helmet and be hands free except when I need to change channels or > something other than talk and/or listen to someone on the same channel. I'm > thinking that VOX activation of the transmit on a radio will be problematic > on a motorcycle because of ambient noise. Does anyone have any ideas how to > fix that ussue? > > > > That was the easy part. > > > > Now I need to select the Bluetooth adaptor for me and a loaner system for > other peoples helmets. I'm thinking that an ear bud would be nice to loan > out or convince my cheapskate buddies to buy so ANYONE could use it on a > motorcycle or possibly a headset with a boom that has a very low profile so > it slips inside a helmet and wouldn't get destroyed as you don or remove > your helmet. > > > > Does anyone use a system now and if so can you please tell us what you do > and don't like about the one(s) you use or have used? > > > > $bob$ >

Perhaps the only time your buddies can get any peace and quiet is when they are on their bikes. ;-{>

[albatrossklr]

One of the reasons I enjoy the ride is the lack of voices...except for those in my head... albatross

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jud Jones" wrote: > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Monahan" wrote: > > > > KLR Geeks, > > > > > > > > I'm a bit frustrated. I ride with several different friends that have Dual > > Sport bikes and none of them have an intercom system so we can talk bike to > > bike without raising our shields and yelling or stopping and removing our > > helmets to carry on a conversation. > > > > > > > > I thought I'd just google my way to a simple modular system that I could > > suggest others get also or something I could loan people I ride with but I > > quickly found that it's not as simple as I had hoped. > > > > > > > > Helmets are as different as night and day and intercoms are as varied as my > > wife's shoe collection... > > > > > > > > I have a list of things that I consider important to an intercom system that > > is intuitive to use and inexpensive and modular enough to loan to others and > > have a reasonable expectation of them being able to use it. > > > > > > > > First is the radio itself. > > > > > > > > Each rider should have one and it should have a range of at least a mile so > > if you're riding together and get separated it's easy to reconnect without > > having to resort to cell phones. > > > > > > > > One type of radio that seems easy to buy and use are CB radios which are > > moderately priced and have fantastic range but are prone to static and bleed > > over from truckers using high powered linear amps and skip (sun spot > > problems). > > > > > > > > The more obvious choice is the FRS radio that you can buy at places like > > Wal-Mart for less than $25 and they have moderately good range and aren't > > prone to static or bleed over unless you're really really close to other > > users. Even the cheapest of them will easily talk a mile down a road or > > across areas that are moderately cluttered with woods or buildings. If you > > get one wet and ruin it they're very cheap to replace so they seem to be the > > obvious choice. Their only downside is in heavily populated areas the > > channels can be quite busy. > > > > > > > > You can easily put one in a shirt or jacket pocket or get fancy and mount it > > on handlebars. > > > > > > > > I'm thinking that I'd like the radio that I use to connect via Bluetooth to > > my helmet and be hands free except when I need to change channels or > > something other than talk and/or listen to someone on the same channel. I'm > > thinking that VOX activation of the transmit on a radio will be problematic > > on a motorcycle because of ambient noise. Does anyone have any ideas how to > > fix that ussue? > > > > > > > > That was the easy part. > > > > > > > > Now I need to select the Bluetooth adaptor for me and a loaner system for > > other peoples helmets. I'm thinking that an ear bud would be nice to loan > > out or convince my cheapskate buddies to buy so ANYONE could use it on a > > motorcycle or possibly a headset with a boom that has a very low profile so > > it slips inside a helmet and wouldn't get destroyed as you don or remove > > your helmet. > > > > > > > > Does anyone use a system now and if so can you please tell us what you do > > and don't like about the one(s) you use or have used? > > > > > > > > $bob$ > > > > > Perhaps the only time your buddies can get any peace and quiet is when they are on their > bikes. ;-{> >

[Bob Monahan]

Found this review of the Starcom1 Advance Motorcycle Intercom. Sounds like maybe what I want but they're EXPENSIVE!!! $bob$ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Paul Statham]

Bob On our snowmobiles we have used Collete communicators. We found they work well.I have not used them on the bikes yet. I had an old 144 MHZ unit . But my friend with whom I am going to ride across Canada this summer with on our KLRs, has answer 900 MHZ unit. We were able to find a matching 900 unit for me. Unfortunately we have not been able to test them as I live in Ontario and he lives in BC. But from past experience they should work good. My sleds were allot noisier that the bikes. I have attached there link. give them a call. Paul Statham www.collett.mb.ca/ Bob Monahan wrote: KLR Geeks, I'm a bit frustrated. I ride with several different friends that have Dual Sport bikes and none of them have an intercom system so we can talk bike to bike without raising our shields and yelling or stopping and removing our helmets to carry on a conversation. I thought I'd just google my way to a simple modular system that I could suggest others get also or something I could loan people I ride with but I quickly found that it's not as simple as I had hoped. Helmets are as different as night and day and intercoms are as varied as my wife's shoe collection... I have a list of things that I consider important to an intercom system that is intuitive to use and inexpensive and modular enough to loan to others and have a reasonable expectation of them being able to use it. First is the radio itself. Each rider should have one and it should have a range of at least a mile so if you're riding together and get separated it's easy to reconnect without having to resort to cell phones. One type of radio that seems easy to buy and use are CB radios which are moderately priced and have fantastic range but are prone to static and bleed over from truckers using high powered linear amps and skip (sun spot problems). The more obvious choice is the FRS radio that you can buy at places like Wal-Mart for less than $25 and they have moderately good range and aren't prone to static or bleed over unless you're really really close to other users. Even the cheapest of them will easily talk a mile down a road or across areas that are moderately cluttered with woods or buildings. If you get one wet and ruin it they're very cheap to replace so they seem to be the obvious choice. Their only downside is in heavily populated areas the channels can be quite busy. You can easily put one in a shirt or jacket pocket or get fancy and mount it on handlebars. I'm thinking that I'd like the radio that I use to connect via Bluetooth to my helmet and be hands free except when I need to change channels or something other than talk and/or listen to someone on the same channel. I'm thinking that VOX activation of the transmit on a radio will be problematic on a motorcycle because of ambient noise. Does anyone have any ideas how to fix that ussue? That was the easy part. Now I need to select the Bluetooth adaptor for me and a loaner system for other peoples helmets. I'm thinking that an ear bud would be nice to loan out or convince my cheapskate buddies to buy so ANYONE could use it on a motorcycle or possibly a headset with a boom that has a very low profile so it slips inside a helmet and wouldn't get destroyed as you don or remove your helmet. Does anyone use a system now and if so can you please tell us what you do and don't like about the one(s) you use or have used? $bob$ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --------------------------------- Now with a new friend-happy design! Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Charlie Y]

When I'm riding, I can get off about 0.10 words per minute using SMS texting on my cell phone .

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