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[Mike McCourt]

Thanks for the response I appreciate the ideas. I'm pretty sure it's not out of gas since That tank was filled and then run only 130 miles, it gets to at least 200 before going on reserve. The petcock almost never gets moved, I fill before going to reserve, so it's run many tanks to near 200 miles before refill without problems. I have two KLRs and the other one doesn't do this, I'm sure it's not operator error, though it's always a possibility. Thanks, Mike --- Jokerloco9@... wrote:

> It sounds to me like there is nothing wrong with the > bike. You are just > running out of gas. Look at the owners' manual > regarding the position of the > petcock. > > I have noticed that at speed on the freeway, when > the KLR runs out of gas > and needs to go on reserve, it does not give you > much warning. My 1974 Honda > CB750 would kind of sag a bit, and give you plenty > of warning that you needed > to go on reserve. > > Also, when you do run out of gas, I am not sure if > you can just switch to > reserve, like old bikes, and the fuel just flows. I > think there is a diaphram > opened by engine vacuum, that only flows fuel with > engine running. But I > think there is a position that allows filling carb > when dry. I personally don't > remember, and I'm too tired to go find my owners > manual to figure it out > right now. There are plenty of others here that > know the scoop. This may be why > you had to goof around with the bike for 15 minutes > to get it running again, > to fill the carb bowl. > > So before you loose faith in the bike, determine if > it was nothing more than > just "operator error" > > Jeff A20 > > > In a message dated 2/12/2008 8:19:29 P.M. Pacific > Standard Time, > mjmc335@... writes: > > > > > Have been lurking for a couple of years and posted a > few times, but > here's a long one. > > After spending 6 months rehabbing my shattered > elbow from a dirt ride > on my 03 KLR last August, I'm back on the bike > riding to and from > work. Tonight my 05 KLR failed me a second time, > stalling in the > middle lane at 65mph after coming off the Dumbarton > bridge here in > the Bay Area. The bike has been ridden a few times > and charged up so > it didn't sit the whole 6 months. It also was filled > with gas on > Sunday and has 130 miles on this tank. > > The first stall was probably 10 or more months ago > when the bike died > with no lights or electrical power. After fiddling > with it for about > 10 minutes while standing about 18 inches from > Freeway traffic, it > started up and was fine for a few thousand more > miles. I suspected it > was the petcock because when it stalled, I turned > on the reserve and > even though it didn't' start up right away, it > eventually did. > > Tonight the bike just died at speed. I immediately > turned to reserve > and barely made it to the right shoulder, which was > about 3 feet > wide. Luckily it had all electrical power (so the > battery connection > is not likely), neutral light, turn signal, brake > lights, tail light, > headlight, and starter. After trying 4 or 5 times it > was turning over > but not starting. I began pushing it to the exit, > about half a mile > away, hoping to get it started. I left the ignition > on so the left > turn signal would flash and I could hit my flashing > brake lights for > extra "attention". All the while thinking, "this is > such a stupid way > to die", on the side of the freeway pushing my bike > in the dark > waiting for someone not paying attention to plow > into to the bike and > me". In retrospect I should probably have just let > the bike sit > while standing on the outside of the barrier and > then tried to start > it later. > > After pushing a while the bike would start but when > I dropped it into > first it stalled, about three times. After pushing > some more I tried > it again and it started and held when in gear. I > rode it to a gas > station to check it, turning it off and starting > again, but couldn't > see anything obviously wrong and rode home. Total > pushing time was > about 10, maybe 15 minutes, with the ignition on the > whole time. > > My first thought to the problem was gas; maybe the > petcock or the > valve is bad. Next is the safety start circuit > because it would start > and then die when going to first gear even with the > kickstand up. > > Questions: > Has anyone had the bike stall at speed and find out > it was the clutch > lever/side stand safety circuit? > Any ideas on the petcock or anything else? > > I'm losing some confidence in this bike, the 03 > hasn't had this > problem though it was a slow speed stall that sent > me into the dirt > with the elbow shattering. That one was my fault but > this stalling > thing is spooking me a bit. > > Mike > > > > _Messages in this topic _ >

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[Robert Waters]

Michael,

> Questions:

Has anyone had the bike stall at speed and find out it was the clutch lever/side stand safety circuit? Any ideas on the petcock or anything else? >

> I'm losing some confidence in this bike, the 03 hasn't had this

problem though it was a slow speed stall that sent me into the dirt with the elbow shattering. That one was my fault but this stalling thing is spooking me a bit. > I had a DR-350. Great bike? However, it did the same thing to me about three times. I could not find out what was wrong, so I got rid of the bike. It never had a problem riding the trails or short trips. It was always on a long trip and higher speeds that it would stall. I suspected that it was in the switch, but did not change it out. Sometimes it would quit all at once and not start back, but sometimes it would quit and then come back on. Allowing it to set (rest) for a few minutes was what it needed. Then it would start and get me on home. The most likely problem with these symptoms would be that the tank was stopped up. However, I cleaned it but that did not solve the problem. If the bike had of had electric start I would not have gotten rid of it, but it was a real pain to start when it was hot anyway. A stall (like you noted) on another bike cause me a serious injury to the shoulder once. The problem with it was the battery. It was a 1973 Honda 125. These type problems are obviously not always easily fixed. But don't punt until the 4th down. I don't know, it is so serious you might consider puting on the 3rd down just so you can stay in the game. RW TotalHealth.bz Focus On Truth --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Stephen Grisanti]

The incident like this that occurred to me was electrical. Stopped dead and would not restart 100 miles from home. Fortunately, one of my customers lent he his Ford pickup to bring the bike home. What I learned is that one of the wiring bundles that passed through the headlight shell was rubbed through against the edge of the opening and there was a bare wire shorting out on the headlight shell. This was not on a KLR, but the bike was heavier and it was a hot day to be pushing. Stephen --- Michael McCourt wrote:

> Have been lurking for a couple of years and posted a > few times, but > here's a long one. > > After spending 6 months rehabbing my shattered elbow > from a dirt ride > on my 03 KLR last August, I'm back on the bike > riding to and from > work. Tonight my 05 KLR failed me a second time, > stalling in the > middle lane at 65mph after coming off the Dumbarton > bridge here in > the Bay Area. The bike has been ridden a few times > and charged up so > it didn't sit the whole 6 months. It also was filled > with gas on > Sunday and has 130 miles on this tank. > > The first stall was probably 10 or more months ago > when the bike died > with no lights or electrical power. After fiddling > with it for about > 10 minutes while standing about 18 inches from > Freeway traffic, it > started up and was fine for a few thousand more > miles. I suspected it > was the petcock because when it stalled, I turned on > the reserve and > even though it didn't' start up right away, it > eventually did. > > Tonight the bike just died at speed. I immediately > turned to reserve > and barely made it to the right shoulder, which was > about 3 feet > wide. Luckily it had all electrical power (so the > battery connection > is not likely), neutral light, turn signal, brake > lights, tail light, > headlight, and starter. After trying 4 or 5 times it > was turning over > but not starting. I began pushing it to the exit, > about half a mile > away, hoping to get it started. I left the ignition > on so the left > turn signal would flash and I could hit my flashing > brake lights for > extra "attention". All the while thinking, "this is > such a stupid way > to die", on the side of the freeway pushing my bike > in the dark > waiting for someone not paying attention to plow > into to the bike and > me". In retrospect I should probably have just let > the bike sit > while standing on the outside of the barrier and > then tried to start > it later. > > After pushing a while the bike would start but when > I dropped it into > first it stalled, about three times. After pushing > some more I tried > it again and it started and held when in gear. I > rode it to a gas > station to check it, turning it off and starting > again, but couldn't > see anything obviously wrong and rode home. Total > pushing time was > about 10, maybe 15 minutes, with the ignition on the > whole time. > > My first thought to the problem was gas; maybe the > petcock or the > valve is bad. Next is the safety start circuit > because it would start > and then die when going to first gear even with the > kickstand up. > > Questions: > Has anyone had the bike stall at speed and find out > it was the clutch > lever/side stand safety circuit? > Any ideas on the petcock or anything else? > > I'm losing some confidence in this bike, the 03 > hasn't had this > problem though it was a slow speed stall that sent > me into the dirt > with the elbow shattering. That one was my fault but > this stalling > thing is spooking me a bit. > > Mike > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: > www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >

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[Ron Johnson]

My 98' acted like that and it ended up being the air filter. I had recently cleaned it and it still looked clean but I cleaned it again anyways and it never bothered me again. I still don't think that filter was dirty but who's to argue with a running bike? My 04' also gave me the same problem you have mentioned. That turned into a nightmare. My fault for not working on it in proper order. Cleaned the air filter. still broke. Cleaned the carb, still broke. Check valve clearance, nothing wrong. Tested the CDI according to my manual and the results told me that my CDI was smoked. I didn't believe it was smoked so I ignored the results and kept going. I tore that bike apart. Two weeks, three carb cleanings, etc, etc, etc, and to much anger to mention and it was STILL BROKE. When it broke I had been putting an average of 200m a week on it for a couple of months so I had ignored the obvious, BAD BATCH OF GAS. Now I was really pissed and had to clean the carb again. My advice to you; 1. Clean air filter 2. Drain and flush gas tank 3. Clean petcock and screens 4. Throughly clean carb, " make sure you remove choke side cover plate and clean " 5. Replace spark plug 6. Check valve clearance 7. Don't waste your time testing the CDI 8. Test coil or " borrow from your other KLR " 9. Clean battery terminals and check cable connections on motor, " Don't ignore this one, my chopper taught me this one the hard way " 10. Check all ignition related wires and connections If this doesn't help then you'll needed to research the archives about advice on the pick-up coil/magneto. I have seen ONE person post a complaint on it. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jeff Saline]

On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:23:01 -0000 "georgios_ace" writes:

> I want to ask someone who has the Whitehorse center stand: Is it > enough to press on the rod with my foot and all my weight to get the > > KLR on the stand? Or the leverage is not enough and I wil need to > pull > up the bike simultaneously? In the past I had fitted a center stand > > without a leverage rod and it was useless because I could not lift > the > bike, too heavy for me. > Any help appreciated. > > Georgios

<><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><> Georgios, Long time since I've heard from you. : ) I don't have the Whitehorse centerstand but I did add a "kicker foot" to my centerstand. I'm thinking they are about the same thing. With my centerstand I step on the kicker foot and pull up on the bike a bit at the same time. It gets right on the centerstand. It's not much work and I can just step on the kicker foot and it will go up too. Just easier if I pull up a bit at the same time. I've tried to put it on the centerstand without using the kicker foot and I can barely get an unloaded bike on the stand. I even tried the roll the bike backwards and jam the centerstand into the ground while pulling up and back. It still was almost impossible for me to get the bike on the stand. If you want a picture of my centerstand off list let me know and I'll send you one. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT