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ocpianoman
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kenda tires, snow, and falling

Post by ocpianoman » Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:45 pm

Took the KLR up to the Lytle Creek area again today. http://maps.yahoo.com/#mvt=m&lat=34.261725&lon=-117.499898&mag=6&q1=lytle%20creek%20ca The snow line was much lower than before so I didn't get as far as last time. As soon as I got onto the snow the Kendas aired up for street use got very slippery and I only made it about 100 yds. before falling off and whacking my ribs on the hard snow. The tires had been fine on the gravel up to that point. Never was all that rough-and-tumble and at 50yo the fall took the wind right out of my sails! Picked the bike up right away though, had to back it down the rut about 50 yds. to a place where I could haul the rear wheel out of the rut and get the bike turned back downhill. Good workout. I felt my ribs shift somewhat on impact but it didn't hurt too much. Four hours later it's a different story, sore as hell and moving very carefully but able to move nonetheless. I think it's a muscle pull. But I picked up the KLR and rode it home so all's well etc... It's obviously way tougher than I am. The wrap-around handguards did a good job of protecting the levers and the only damage to the bike was losing a little rattle-can black off the plastic. I kind of like the Mad Max look of the dull olive showing underneath the beat up black paint. I was wearing elbow, knee, and shin armor, a leather jacket and good boots but took the shot to an unprotected area. Time for torso armor too if I'm going to continue in this folly. Luckily I fell off in full view of about a family with a pickup and a quad, but it was embarrassing to say the least! Could have been worse and it was a good lesson to be prepared if you plan on playing in the dirt like a pup. I need to find a riding buddy for this fire-roading foolishness.

Michael Silverstein
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kenda tires, snow, and falling

Post by Michael Silverstein » Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:07 am

I recently took a fall and even though I recall hitting the ground on my left side, there was a surprising amount of damage to the chest of my jacket. Mike A18 KLR650 tires page [http://www.standoutnet.com/extras/mike/motorcycles/klr650/tires/%5d From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ocpianoman Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:45 AM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Kenda tires, snow, and falling I was wearing elbow, knee, and shin armor, a leather jacket and good boots but took the shot to an unprotected area. Time for torso armor too if I'm going to continue in this folly. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

art art
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kenda tires, snow, and falling

Post by art art » Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:29 am

I also went up to Lyttle creek with mt trusty KLR yesterday. We parked at the ranger station right by the 10 fwy and headed up the fire road just west of the station. I have D606's on my stead, and didn't have to many problems running through the small area's of snow where vehicles had already made tracks. I did finally come to an area where the tires just dug in, so i had to back down a small hill about 100 feet. All was fine until i came across a north facing road where the tire tracks where like iced over chutes. In my inexperienced wisdom i put the bike into neutral as i tried to sit on the bike and somewhat walk the bike down a 20 degree incline, well after about 40 feet, the brakes where of no use on the ice and down i went. I knocked the black grated plastic piece off the tank cowling, and tore the shroud from the tank brackets. Every time i tried to pick the bike up it would start to move down hill in the ice chute causing me to loose my footing and grip so we would both fall again. this went on two or three times, until i finally got the bike up, to have it flop over to the other side where it broke off the other sides plastic shroud. I proceeded to locate and stack rocks in front of the bike to keep it from moving when i picked it up again. It worked and i zipped tied all of the plastic back on once i got to dry ground again. I question how smart i was for rinding up above the snow line, after i went down that ice chute, i kept thinking of how much trouble i could of gotten my self into had i come across an area that i couldn't of gotten through, i would of been stuck. Thankfully this didn't happen, but I agree with ocpianoman, you shouldn't ride alone. FYI for all the so-cal riders, most of the fire roads in the Cleavland national forest are closed for fire Restoration, and it sounds like it wont be open until October / November 2008 at the earliest Art --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Tengai Mark Van Horn
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kenda tires, snow, and falling

Post by Tengai Mark Van Horn » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:08 am

At 9:05 AM -0500 2/10/08, Michael Silverstein wrote:
>I recently took a fall and even though I recall hitting the ground on my >left side, there was a surprising amount of damage to the chest of my >jacket.
What kind of jacket? The reason I ask is that I slid chest-down and backwards for 50 feet on a wet road in a Belstaff Discovery jacket a couple years ago and there was almost zero damage. Mark

Jeff Saline
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kenda tires, snow, and falling

Post by Jeff Saline » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:31 am

On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 10:08:20 -0500 Tengai Mark Van Horn writes:
> At 9:05 AM -0500 2/10/08, Michael Silverstein wrote: > >I recently took a fall and even though I recall hitting the ground > on my > >left side, there was a surprising amount of damage to the chest of > my > >jacket. > > What kind of jacket? > The reason I ask is that I slid chest-down and backwards for 50 feet > > on a wet road in a Belstaff Discovery jacket a couple years ago and > > there was almost zero damage. > > Mark
<><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><> Mark, Your slide reminded me of something I was told a long long time ago about snow skiing. If you are going to fall down do it on the steep slopes instead of the gentle or flat areas. When you fall on the steep stuff you slide along for a bit as you slow. When you fall on the flat or gentle areas you stop immediately and that's when you often break something. I'm guessing it's similar when falling off a motorcycle. Fall at a reasonable speed on asphalt when you have proper gear and you slide along until you stop. Fall at a slow speed and you just hit the ground, often times kind of hard. If you land on a shoulder or put your hands out you can break a wrist or collar bone etc. Of course I suppose there is a speed at which you'd rather not fall off the bike too. : ) But I know of guys that have fallen off bikes on a race course at well over 150 mph and walked away from it. I think it's often the abrupt stop that causes most of the problems. Being in good physical shape will also often go a long way towards allowing you to survive a get off. My superman slide on asphalt during the Great Divide Ride was done using a First Gear Air Kilimanjaro jacket and air mesh pants. I'm still using them although I have started thinking about replacements. All the gear saved me a lot of pain from that incident. I didn't know my helmet had touched the pavement until the next day when I tried to clean the visor and discovered it was scratches and not dirt. : ) Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT

Horton Oliphant
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kenda tires, snow, and falling

Post by Horton Oliphant » Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:18 am

Sounds good but I don't think that is the way it works. Your still falling toward the ground at the same velocity as if you just did a vertical fall. I believe that you can think of it as two separate things that are happening at the same time. Of course the falling part does effect the amount of pressure between you and the asphalt going from zero to your maximum weight after your vertical speed hits zero. If someone can point out the fallacy of my thinking I'll be glad to learn from it and change my thought. Alan Henderson A13 Iowa Jeff Saline wrote:
> Mark, > > Your slide reminded me of something I was told a long long time ago about > snow skiing. If you are going to fall down do it on the steep slopes > instead of the gentle or flat areas. When you fall on the steep stuff > you slide along for a bit as you slow. When you fall on the flat or > gentle areas you stop immediately and that's when you often break > something. > > I'm guessing it's similar when falling off a motorcycle. Fall at a > reasonable speed on asphalt when you have proper gear and you slide along > until you stop. Fall at a slow speed and you just hit the ground, often > times kind of hard. If you land on a shoulder or put your hands out you > can break a wrist or collar bone etc.

Michael Silverstein
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kenda tires, snow, and falling

Post by Michael Silverstein » Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:02 pm

I was wearing a First Gear Kilimanjaro. It was a slow fall. Hit some gravel making a turn at an intersection. I think I only slid about ten feet or less, on dry pavement going slightly up hill. The slide wore a hole in one of the pocket outer layers but didn't compromise the structure of the pocket. I was just surprised because I had no recollection of even being on my chest. First time down since 1975. Had all my gear on. Didn't get a scratch (on me). Mike A18 From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tengai Mark Van Horn Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 10:08 AM To: msilverstein@... Cc: ocpianoman; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Kenda tires, snow, and falling At 9:05 AM -0500 2/10/08, Michael Silverstein wrote:
>I recently took a fall and even though I recall hitting the ground on my >left side, there was a surprising amount of damage to the chest of my >jacket.
What kind of jacket? The reason I ask is that I slid chest-down and backwards for 50 feet on a wet road in a Belstaff Discovery jacket a couple years ago and there was almost zero damage. Mark [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Stephen Grisanti
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spark plug?

Post by Stephen Grisanti » Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:21 pm

Remove the tank for access. You'll likely need a flex extension between ratchet and socket, and be sure to blow out any accumulated grit down in that plug well before beginning the removal to prevent the grit from getting into the cylinder. Good luck! Stephen --- "Ms. Jamie C." wrote:
> OK, I know there's a spark plug on my '96, but for > the life of me I > can't figure out how to get at it without ripping > the front end apart. > > Can someone tell me what I need to remove to get at > it? > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: > www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
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