finally satisfied with my suspension
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finally satisfied with my suspension
As posted on advrider:
I now finally have my A17's suspension where I want it.
First off, I'm heavy and short (270lbs, 5'10"), and I like to go on camping
trips on my bike (carrying gear), so it's clear anything resembling the
KLR's stock suspension is going to have to be modded quite a bit to
accommodate the excessive tonnage.
I started with Progressive Suspension (PS) springs and 12wt fork oil. Great
improvement to resisting brake dive, although it still dove hard if I wasn't
gentle enough with the 320mm.
The rear was way outmatched for the load it was being asked to carry. You
can't compensate for incorrect spring rate with preload, you only set ride
height with preload. You've gotta have the correct spring rate to carry the
weight. The shock also had tons of stiction and very little damping.
I installed a set of Eagle Mike's RL1 raising links. They work through
leverage, and since they are shorter than stock the increase both effective
spring rate and damping, making both firmer and also raising the rear of the
bike a little (1/2 to 3/4 inch).
That helped a lot.... but the stock shock really is crap. Even if it is
brand new, as soon as you use it hard the fork oil will mix with the
nitrogen and make a compressable foam instead of fork oil... there goes your
damping.
So I decided to bite the bullet and order the Cogent Dynamics KLR shock from
http://www.motocd.com The owner / inventor / cook / salesperson /
manufacturer is Rick Tannenbaum, and I don't think you'll find better
customer support anywhere in this business. Rick likes to spend quite a bit
of time conversing with you so that he can set up your custom shock best for
YOU, YOUR BIKE, and YOUR RIDING STYLE.
About a half a grand later, I have a mighty fine shock and proper spring
rate. The rear end is smooth, firm, and controlled. The front end still
sucked.
I bought a kit from Rick consisting of Race Tech Gold Valve Cartridge
Emulators, a litre of Rock Oil 10W Synthetic fork oil, and a pair of the
Cogent Dynamics KLR springs (heavier than the regular CD springs). They are
progressively wound springs, but they are not made by Progressive
Suspension. Unlike the PS springs which are quite a bit longer than stock
ones, the CD spring is heavier but the same length as the stocker, so you
can use stock spacers... unless you are installing the Emulators, in which
case they act as an additional spacer, and you should remove an equivalent
amount from the spacer).
I put the kit in up at a friend's well-equipped shop in the mountains. A
short test ride showed the front to be pretty stiff but still compliant on
big hits.
However, on the way home I was on a stretch of Interstate 580 coming into
Oakland that was segmented concrete slabs for about 30 miles. The ride was
miserable. The front end was not absorbing the bumps so every 20 feet or so
the front end would get smacked UP and transfer weight onto the rear, and
just about that time the rear would hit the same slab seam and IT would get
kicked.
Fortunately the CD rear shock with its smooth and correct damping was able
to suck the bump up. The net result of the two ends though was a really
irritating hobby horse motion, and it was pretty violent. I estimate it was
lifing and dropping the top of my head by about an inch, and it made my
vision blur.
Needless to say, when I got home I was not a happy camper. I posted to Rick
on KLRforums.com though and he came through with a bunch of tuning
suggestions I implemented this morning... more sag, tune the emulator for
softer damping, and an alignment procedure to make sure nothing in the forks
was binding.
I put it all back together and took it for a short freeway ride and a
considerable amount of riding San Francisco's crappy cracked and potholed
surface streets.
Both ends work as well as I can expect this bike to ever work without
spending absolutely silly amounts of time money and effort on it. Both ends
are plush on small stuff and both ends also handle big smacks with firmness
and control. Brake dive is as to be expected, there but not excessive. Both
ends work together now, not fighting each other.
So, I will highly recommend Rick Tannenbaum and Cogent Dynamics. If you are
dissattisfied with your KLR suspension, Rick will fix you right up!
Michael
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"It's not what I don't understand about religion that bothers me, it's what
I do understand." -- Mark Twain
San Francisco, CA
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I have a supertrapp muffler that is in great shape and would like to sell it. I would like 130 for it and 20 bucks for shipping.....anyone interested...thanks Jim
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