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ponyboy8844
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Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

Post by ponyboy8844 » Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:38 pm

That's it! Thank you! I knew I'd seen those before. Should've known they were on the website. Hard to believe it was almost 11 years ago!   -Roy

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Here's photos on the B9 site when Mike J. visited Kevin Burns to see the original parts:

The B9 Robot Builders Club Image The B9 Robot Builders Club Visiting Kevin Burns in LA, April 2005     04/05/2005 View on b9robotbuildersclub... Preview by Yahoo
 

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Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

Post by ponyboy8844 » Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:42 pm

I'll be interested in what your notes have to say. This whole conversation has been extremely interesting! I love this stuff!                 -Roy

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Roy,

Since we re reviving our memories here, you may be right about Mike just getting access to Kevin s molds and random parts. I can t be 100% sure if he had access to the original hero although for some reason I always thought he did.

Again, all this talk is refreshing my memory but also making me question some things which is why I wanna check my notes. I m not at my studio today so it ll have to wait.

Garry

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Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

Post by ponyboy8844 » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:10 pm

It was my understanding that they were discovered in Greg Jein's storage unit. They were thought to be lost for years until Brian Mix (I think) got to visit Greg's storage unit and took photos of the stunt robot's head where the closeup pic revealed the hieroglyphics on the brain were merely Sharpie marker drawn designs. In the backround of one of the pics, the original tread section could be seen. It was painted white indicating they were intending on using them for Mystery Island but later opted for the round base seen on the show. They still had the knee plates attached and the knees looked a bit old and ragged. Those pics are floating around somewhere. Brian was at Robocon a couple of years ago and he had some very interesting stories to tell since I think, he's in that business. I'm guessing the treads were reunited with the hero during its restoration since Greg owned them and did the restoration.   -Roy

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Some of those Robot parts look way too old to be the restored B9? I wonder what happened to the original tread section when they decided to change the Robot for Mystery Island.......




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  Here's photos on the B9 site when Mike J. visited Kevin Burns to see the original parts:

The B9 Robot Builders Club Image The B9 Robot Builders Club Visiting Kevin Burns in LA, April 2005     04/05/2005 View on b9robotbuildersclub... Preview by Yahoo  

Craig Reinbrecht
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Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

Post by Craig Reinbrecht » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:11 pm

Holy Crap!! Where do I start!

First of all, MIke Joyce DOES NOT own the original Hero Robot. I am also certain MIke does NOT know who does. Kevin Burns obviously does because he is the one that sold it, but the deal must have included confidentiality which he is abiding by. That sucks, but it is the reality. I can't say that anyone else really knows. I think it is highly unlikely that Paul Allen owns the Hero. Its very disappointing to me that someone wants to own it and hoard it to themselves. Why not have it properly restored and show it of??

Next... Mike Joyce NEVER had access to the original Hero robot. Back in 2005 he got access to a treasure trove of original molds jigs and spare parts, but never the actual hero. I know, I was there along with Frederick Hodges. Mike got to take many things back with him to South Dakota to use as reference for his Replicas, including torso molds. We saw the original stone molds for the legs, arms, and torso, but never touched them or measured them. we simply didn't have enough time. But there wasn't a big need either... we had the arm master and the torso molds from an epoxy resin plug cast from the stone molds. The stone molds are deteriorating so Kevin would not let those be used by anyone. Several years earlier Kevin had two epoxy resin plugs made from the torso stone molds which were the basis of Mike's replica torso's and now the v2 torso.

http://www.b9robotbuildersclub.com/pub/gallery/LATrip_2005/TripPhotos.html

Will Huff's incredible legs are absolutely not made from the original stone molds (but I am guessing he will be smiling knowing that some people think he is). Will researched and made his own molds and spent a lot of time on that. I thinks there was a lot of trial and error back at the beginning during his development. There are lots of references out there to the original legs. The stunt robot legs were fiberglass casting, likely right from the original stone molds, so those dimensions are pretty well known.

I don't believe Mike ever kept to himself accurate dimensions he discovered during his Replica research. He choose not to sell the v2 torso to the club for a variety of reasons. First and foremost is the slightly different dimensions. He knew that would open up a huge can of worms with the club and he just couldn't deal with that and develop and sell his Replica's at the same time. As I said before, Mike is a lot smarter than me!

I hope that clears up a few misconceptions...

Cheers!

Craig





At 08:15 PM 1/25/2016, you wrote:
 

OK Well thanks for setting me straight. The gal I spoke to at the museum checked her list of active displays for the info and the Robot wasn't listed so it isn't on display. When I checked the website I couldn't find it either and in the past it was listed. My old laptop died last year so I don't have access to the pictures I took of the Robot and the plaque that was with it.

Also, I contacted CraigR and he should be adding what he know on this topic here shortly.

Charlie
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Paul for sure bought the stunt. Had it restored by Fred Barton and had it on display at the Sci-fi museum since he owns that too. I don't think he bought the hero or it would have been on display there also. I wonder why the stunt is no longer on display though? The receptionist probably just didn't know. -Roy

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I may be wrong but I am thinking Paul Allen bought the Hero from Kevin in 1998 or 1999. I think that when the Dunny was restored it was sold or donated to the Sci-Fi Museum I just called and spoke to the Admin Office and she didn't think that Robot was owned by Paul Allen but since it is currently NOT on display she couldn't tell me for certain.

Anyway that's how I remember it.

Mike Joyce needs to chime in here.

Mike??

Charlie

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Hi Charlie!   I thought Paul Allen only owned the stunt robot that now resides in the Sci-fi museum in Seattle. Does he own the hero also? -Roy

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Well that sucks....let's see if I can remember....

MikeJ does NOT own the hero Robot, never did. When it was for sale, Michael Jackson was going to purchase it but when he found out how bad it was he backed out. Paul Allen, co-founder of Microsoft Inc now owns it.

The MikeJ torso or TimK/MikeJ, torso is reverse engineered.

The Torso that was used in the B9 Creations Replicas by MikeJ are made from the original molds provided to B9 Ceations by Kevin Burns.

The torso for the B9 Creation. is now referred to "The V-2 Torso" that you can purchase from Craig R.

All the rubber parts, legs, knees, arms and bubble lifter boot for the B9 Creations Replica were made by Will Huff and are the same parts you can buy today. Same stuff.

I think that about covers it....

Charlie

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Charlie, Were you going to say something? Your message didn't come through.

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That's what I've suspected. I know Mike's replicas used pulls from the original stone molds for the torso that Kevin Burns owned. I think the legs as well from the original molds which thankfully still exist. Those replicas were really excellent.   -Roy

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Isn't that where some parts are originating from, like the MikeJ-v2 Torso ???

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So I'll take the silence as a "yes". Although I asked Mike a few years ago at one of the Robocons if he owned the hero and he said no. Maybe he just didn't want to say. So I'm not trying to start any arguments or anything but why all the secrecy? I mean if one of us in the club owns the hero, isn't that a good thing? At least he's owned by someone who appreciates it and will take care of it. If I owned him, I'd be proud of it. Share photos and info to better provide info to the club and people who equally appreciate it. Just sayin'!               -Roy

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Are you saying Mike owns the hero?

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This photo is becoming even more of a mystery. Some great evidence has been added here. I always thought the hero legs were useless after the MI retro-fit, and that s probably because they did appear hardened and looked different, shiny, to me but that fact that you, Marc, saw the hero at the Boston reunion and saw the white paint is proof they were used for a time. The legs in this photo to me look like they did on the show as they never looked that way again. It was the specific way they looked when Bob was in it. There s that first bellow right where the legs spit into two different legs, right below the crotch if you will on the right leg. There s that first   bellow there that always droops. It looks like that on every occasion of the show but never after, never that severe. But I do believe the guys who noticed the Greg Jein altercations on the stunt so I now have to imagine that it s not from the show but is indeed our hero and his stunt double, it s just a question of when. Maybe I ll send Flint an email, he must know. Anyway, you know when these robots were acquired there are some molds that go along with them and duplicate parts were made.

Let s also not forget that the robot did have a sort of career after LIS and before Mystery Island where he would make public appearances and I m sure parts here and there were broken and was in need of replacing with whatever. I remember seeing a photo of the hero on a Jerry Lewis telethon maybe in 1970 and he had an acrylic cake box for a bubble, you know the one more like the Mystery Island flat on the top and bottom kind.

I ve tracked these robots since the 80 s when I reached out to Flint after having discovered LISFAN, I m sure a lot of us did, following the robot s journey after he was unearthed by Kevin. I love researching him and following the trail and getting that photographic evidence. However, there are tons of stuff we ll never know, mostly during the show s run. Case in point, I don t know how many of you remember that there was an original radar on eBay, not screen used but pulled from the mold during the production of the show. I m sure there were many back-up parts during the production of a show where time is money. Anyway, I won that radar and the interesting thing about it is that it had, in resign, the bubble lifter boot so that was part of the radar mold. Interesting to be sure and proof that there s so much we won t know.

As far as after the discovery of both robots in storage, that history we should and can know. I agree with Marc 100% that this should all be documented on the web site and for the most part I think it was to some degree. Posts have been put up and removed over time but I haven t been there in a long time so I don t know what s up now. Wasn t Dan Monroe s brilliant epitaph to the stunt robot (1967-2004) up on the site. I was disappointed that there wasn't a Robot featurette like the Robby one on the 50th Forbidden Planet DVD on the new LIS set.

As far as who owns these robots, it s no secret that the stunt version is in Paul Allen s Sci FI museum or what s left of him. As far as the hero, I think it s been a loosely guarded secret. I know that Mike J was given access and was privy to the original robot when he started his licensed version venture and acquired a ton of first hand, useful information from the original that he wasn t very eager to share with the group. I mean if his replicas were gonna sell they had to be the best, right? Anyway, if that happened, and it did, that means Kevin knows who owns the hero and why wouldn t he, he owned it. I m sure many of the senior members know where the hero is too, I do. I find it amusing as to the secrecy, I mean, if you followed these robot s history, you d know, right? LOL

Garry

Hey Guys,

MikeJ does NOT own the original Hero B9. He was allowed to use original molds and other items owned by Kevin Burns to use in making the B9 Creations Replica. The rubber, legs, arms and bubble boot is made by Will Huff. The same product he is selling to the builders today. The original Hero Robot is owned by Paul Allen, co-founder of Microsoft Inc. The "Dummy" Robot was restored and is in th Sci-Fi Museum in Seattle.

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Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

Post by Greg » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:16 pm


Well that sucks....let's see if I can remember....

MikeJ does NOT own the hero Robot, never did. When it was for sale, Michael Jackson was going to purchase it but when he found out how bad it was he backed out. Paul Allen, co-founder of Microsoft Inc now owns it.

The MikeJ torso or TimK/MikeJ, torso is reverse engineered.

The Torso that was used in the B9 Creations Replicas by MikeJ are made from the original molds provided to B9 Ceations by Kevin Burns.

The torso for the B9 Creation. is now referred to "The V-2 Torso" that you can purchase from Craig R.

All the rubber parts, legs, knees, arms and bubble lifter boot for the B9 Creations Replica were made by Will Huff and are the same parts you can buy today. Same stuff.
For what's it worth - here is the inside information from a former employee of B9Creations. When Mike got the rights to do the robot - him and Craig went to see Kevin Burns and at that time - Kevin showed them stuff that he had from the robot. It was from this parts that Mike designed the Replica parts.

Mike does not owed any of the original robots.

Later,

Greg

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Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

Post by Craig Reinbrecht » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:26 pm

Attachments : The Original Hero treadsections were with the stunt robot when Greg Jein had it. One of our club members, Brian Mix discovered the stunt robot in one of Greg's storage lockers back in I think late 70's, and the steel Hero feet were with it. He pulled a few parts out and snapped some pictures. Michael Davis had all those pictures posted on his web site for years.

Here is one showing the Hero feet:

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It would be nice to get these pictures up on the club web site... I will have to contact Brian to see if we can make that happen.

Btw... Brian Mix came to RoboCon a couple years ago, and we got to hear the whole story of discovering the Stunt Robot first hand. My point... Come to RoboCon! Best way to meet other builders and hear lots of cool stories from some members who have been around a long time. Mike Joyce makes it a point to come every year. I am certainly planning to go!

Craig





At 08:32 PM 1/25/2016, you wrote:
 

Some of those Robot parts look way too old to be the restored B9? I wonder what happened to the original tread section when they decided to change the Robot for Mystery Island.......






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Here's photos on the B9 site when Mike J. visited Kevin Burns to see the original parts:

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Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

Post by Craig Reinbrecht » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:29 pm

As hard as it is to believe, I agree with that theory David... If only there were picture's of the original Hero that someone restoring could have looked at! :-/

Oh the pain!!

Craig


At 04:19 PM 1/24/2016, you wrote:
 

My guess is the bottom double claws are the original claws. I think they cut the angled part off of the top claw and glued it to the back of the bottom claw and a new straight claw was made for the top. When the hero was restored it was just assumed the top claw was right and a bottom matching claw was made.

David H

---- "David Schulpius dschulpius@wi.rr.com [B9Builders]" wrote:
> Wow, Marc has a good point here. I took a good look at the claws on the
> picture first posted of the two robots and then an old (truly bad) mystery
> island photo and they really look the same. I'd guess that the restored
> robot's claws were either taken from the Mystery Island rebuild or copied
> for restoration. Here's that pic attached:
>
> Dave Schulpius
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Mcfinearts@aol.com [B9Builders] <
> B9Builders@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > It's great to hear this discussion about the hero and stunt robots after
> > so long as they are really what is
> >
> > most fascinating to me. I saw the restored hero at the 1990 25th
> > Anniv.Boston cast reunion, the day I spoke
> >
> > to Kevin Burns, met the cast, etc., etc. I can assure you that the hero
> > had the fused knee plates then, and
> >
> > traces of white paint from Mystery Island in the furrows of the leg
> > bellows. The claws were the horrible
> >
> > replacements which are straight, stick out too far and still??? are
> > allowed to represent our hero in major
> >
> > advertising. "Dear Kevin Burns, or present owner of the B9 robot Hero
> > prop....PLEASE REPLACE THE CLAWS
> >
> > WITH ACCURATE ONES!!!" Now that's off my chest! The tread sections back
> > then were newly fabricated,
> >
> > NOT the original hero's, I've forgotten why, I guess they were not part of
> > Kevin Burns original acquisition at
> >
> > the time....The ear sensor dishes were bent on the wrong axis, and other
> > indignities were clearly evident to
> >
> > anyone who really knew what the hero should look like. The original claws,
> > from what I understand, were
> >
> > modified for Mystery Island, and so at least at that time, were too much
> > work to restore? It was such a thrill
> >
> > to meet the cast and see our hero that day regardless of the ravages of
> > time. It would be nice to know where
> >
> > the hero is 25 years later... and obtain a full disclosure of where all
> > the original bits ended up.
> >
> > Our B9 Builders website should contain a full run down and documentation
> > of all this stuff with an "NCIS
> >
> > forensics" attention to documenting the details....what we have is great,
> > but answers are out there........
> >
> > Hello to all my old friends in the club....
> >
> > Marc Chabot
> >
> >
> >

ponyboy8844
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Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

Post by ponyboy8844 » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:37 pm

Greg, I think your message didn't come through. Just Charlie's earlier response. 

-------- Original message --------
From: "Greg b9greg@rap.midco.net [B9Builders]"
Date: 01/25/2016 7:16 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

 
 
Well that sucks....let's see if I can remember....

MikeJ does NOT own the hero Robot, never did. When it was for sale, Michael Jackson was going to purchase it but when he found out how bad it was he backed out. Paul Allen, co-founder of Microsoft Inc now owns it.

The MikeJ torso or TimK/MikeJ, torso is reverse engineered.

The Torso that was used in the B9 Creations Replicas by MikeJ are made from the original molds provided to B9 Ceations by Kevin Burns.

The torso for the B9 Creation. is now referred to "The V-2 Torso" that you can purchase from Craig R.

All the rubber parts, legs, knees, arms and bubble lifter boot for the B9 Creations Replica were made by Will Huff and are the same parts you can buy today. Same stuff.
For what's it worth - here is the inside information from a former employee of B9Creations.   When Mike got the rights to do the robot - him and Craig went to see Kevin Burns and at that time - Kevin showed them stuff that he had from the robot.  It was from this parts that Mike designed the Replica parts.

Mike does not owed any of the original robots.

Later,

Greg

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Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

Post by Craig Reinbrecht » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:39 pm

Hi Marc,

Glad to hear a "familiar voice" on the list!

But what I must say is... what the B9 Builder's web site really needs is someone to write the articles documenting all this stuff (with NCIS forensics). I can't think of anyone better to head such an effort, than you!

I nominate you to be the club historian and document the history of our beloved Hero Robot. Frederick Hodges would be a great candidate to partner with. I'm excited just thinking about what you could come up with!

Let me know how I can help...

Craig



At 11:43 AM 1/24/2016, you wrote:
Our B9 Builders website should contain a full run down and documentation of all this stuff with an "NCIS

forensics" attention to documenting the details....what we have is great, but answers are out there........

Hello to all my old friends in the club....

Marc Chabot  

Craig Reinbrecht
Posts: 386
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Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

Post by Craig Reinbrecht » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:41 pm

Greg replied below Charlie's message...

At 09:37 PM 1/25/2016, you wrote:
 

Greg, I think your message didn't come through. Just Charlie's earlier response.

-------- Original message --------
From: "Greg b9greg@rap.midco.net [B9Builders]"
Date: 01/25/2016 7:16 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: B9Builders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [B9Builders] Re: Original Hero and Long Distance Robot Side by Side

 

 

Well that sucks....let's see if I can remember....

MikeJ does NOT own the hero Robot, never did. When it was for sale, Michael Jackson was going to purchase it but when he found out how bad it was he backed out. Paul Allen, co-founder of Microsoft Inc now owns it.

The MikeJ torso or TimK/MikeJ, torso is reverse engineered.

The Torso that was used in the B9 Creations Replicas by MikeJ are made from the original molds provided to B9 Ceations by Kevin Burns.

The torso for the B9 Creation. is now referred to "The V-2 Torso" that you can purchase from Craig R.

All the rubber parts, legs, knees, arms and bubble lifter boot for the B9 Creations Replica were made by Will Huff and are the same parts you can buy today. Same stuff.
For what's it worth - here is the inside information from a former employee of B9Creations.   When Mike got the rights to do the robot - him and Craig went to see Kevin Burns and at that time - Kevin showed them stuff that he had from the robot.  It was from this parts that Mike designed the Replica parts.

Mike does not owed any of the original robots.

Later,

Greg

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