Hoodoo History Question -- Tricking, Tricks, Tricker

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Hoodoo History Question -- Tricking, Tricks, Tricker

Unread post by TwoOfCups » Sun May 26, 2013 6:18 pm

Couldn't help but make the connection that in Hoodoo spells are called 'tricks' and customers of prostitutes, who often used Hoodoo to gain customers and money back in the depression era, are also called 'tricks'. Could the two be related?

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Re: Hoodoo History question

Unread post by catherineyronwode » Sun May 26, 2013 6:53 pm

No.

I mean sure, Louise Bogan composed and recorded a song called "Tricks Ain't Walking" (which her record label released under the bowdlerized title "They Ain't Walking") -- but she was a prostitute when she sang it. It's not about hoodoo, either -- it's a lament for the demise of street walking as a profession, now that "the Cadillac squad" had replaced pedestrian traffic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QOr805dgDM

But that would not explain why the Black / Native slaves of Mary Alicia Owen's family called their mojo hands "tricker bags" in the pre-Civil War era in Missouri. I mean, they were not in any way, shape, or form street walkers.

http://www.southern-spirits.com/owen-ho ... balls.html

And it would not explain Earl King's 1961 song "trick bag" either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ7IkhdXb7U

Nor would it explain why stage magicians, circus ponies, and acrobats all perform tricks and no one ever confuses them with sex workers:

You never turned around to see the frowns on the jugglers and the clowns
When they all come down and did tricks for you


-- Bob Dylan

So, no, i think this is your misconception, and it may derive from a less than accurate image of Black American social mores. That is, unless you seriously believe that African Americans are all engaged in the sex trade.

I think it comes from literal translations of Native American language -- trickster, trick, tricking.
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Re: Hoodoo History question

Unread post by Doctor Hob » Sun May 26, 2013 7:02 pm

Bonus for the Dylan quote...
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